Sunday, January 24, 2010
ENOCH8 CHAT - One Dinar 1/24/10
[17:36] Enoch8: There should be some great news articles tomorrow..... and through the week..... I hope.
[17:37] Peter Pan: yeah like 100,000.00 new millionares in US..
[17:37] Enoch8: I could do memory if I got on a roll Pan....
[17:38] Enoch8: but..... I do not want to hog time on conference
[17:38] Enoch8: there are some brilliant people on those calls...
[17:38] Peter Pan: anyone guess how many deeenar holders are out ther?
[17:38] Peter Pan: i know most just keep quiet
[17:39] frankie: I've heard everything from 75,000 to 250,000. I don't think anyone really knows
[17:39] Peter Pan: ok just about the same that i have heard..
[17:40] Enoch8: I have hear about 250000 in the US.....
[17:40] Enoch8: seems like a reasonable figure
[17:40] Peter Pan: that is one big economical injection
[17:40] Enoch8: times about an average of 3 to 5 million each
[17:41] Peter Pan: i like that 5 times....lol
[17:41] Peter Pan: ohhh 5 mill
[17:42] Peter Pan: thats a lot of cash
[17:42] frankie: well guys. I'm going to watch this movie that hubby has started. ya'll have a good night. see you tomorrow
[17:42] Peter Pan: ok enjoy..
..
[17:42] Enoch8: that is roughly a little over a Trillion in the hands of US investors if that is true....
[17:43] Enoch8: I have heard about 1.5 Trillion IQD
[17:43] Peter Pan: it wiil be felt..
.
[17:43] Peter Pan: so what do you think aboout chap 7
[17:43] Enoch8: That is a heck of a stimulus
[17:44] Peter Pan: will we see it lifted soon?
[17:44] Enoch8: Nope.
[17:44] Peter Pan: not till after the rv?
[17:44] Enoch8: chap 7 is scheduled for the end of 2010 for UNSC Reveiw
[17:45] Enoch8: Per Ban Ki Moon and UNSC Resolutions from the November meetings
[17:45] Enoch8: and see the 33 page GOI Ministry of Planning reports.... submitted to the UN
[17:46] Enoch8: 470 pages.... but F26 Team broke it down to 33 pages...
[17:46] Enoch8: Chap 7 is not an issue for the RV..... IMHO
[17:47] Enoch8: It gives needed protections from suits against the Hussein Regime
[17:47] Enoch8: It also keeps the DFI secure.
[17:47] Peter Pan: what about HCL?
[17:48] Peter Pan: will we seethat one soon?
[17:48] Enoch8: I think the social distributions portion of HCL can be agreed upon.... to see to it the Kurds and Displaced get their fair share of oil revenues.
[17:49] Peter Pan: are they waiting for it?
[17:49] Peter Pan: i mean anytime soon?
[17:50] Peter Pan: or is it a long term proyection
[17:50] Enoch8: There were statements from Talibani and from Maliki.... that there is already HCL and oil revenue distribution set in place to address that issue.
[17:50] Peter Pan: I think so
[17:50] Peter Pan: if not how would they do oil deals
[17:51] Enoch8: It is true.... there are some who want more for certain groups..... but that should not hold anything up
[17:51] Enoch8: It would be like saying..... the US cannot have money..... because we need to have a better system of socialized welfare.
[17:52] Enoch8: That has nothing to do with a fixed rate and recognised value on our currency....
[17:52] Peter Pan: yeah like cosby say's checks will be handed after 40 succesfull school hrs.
[17:52] Enoch8: why would it be so in Iraq?
[17:54] Peter Pan: i remember when it moved pip by pip...
[17:54] Enoch8: There are possibilities of sanctions that could hold it up though.... but I thought
those parts of Chap 7 were taken care of
[17:54] Peter Pan: when i first purchased it was at 1470
[17:55] Enoch8: It has mostly to do with the recognition by WB and IMF investors wanting to invest in Iraq
[17:55] Enoch8: and Iraq holding credibility with the world in good faith
[17:55] Enoch8: That is what it will amount to.... is this question....
[17:55] Peter Pan: like the guy on the call , wanting us investors
[17:56] Enoch8: "Does the world trust Iraq?"
[17:56] Enoch8: I say they are ready to start trusting IRaq as a legitimate Republic.
[17:56] Peter Pan: i do too
[17:57] Enoch8: Just as much so as Saudi Arabia or Kuwait.
[17:57] Enoch8: Or Israel , Egypt or Jordan.
[18:01] Enoch8: IMHO..... they are just as able as Mexico or Guatemala to have a recognized currency.... and certainly more so than China.
[18:03] Enoch8: As far as civil unrest..... as I recall American History..... we have had Revolutions... wars.... Civil Wars... border wars.... 2 World Wars... and many other wars..... street gangs.... organized crime.... gang crimes....
[18:04] Enoch8: etc etc....
[18:04] Enoch8: and still our currency is recognized as a benchmark on the world statge
[18:04] Peter Pan: true
[18:04] Enoch8: so I do not buy this malarky.... that Iraq has too much voilence and disputes to have a real currency
[18:05] Enoch8: They have more potential wealth per capita that does the USA
[18:05] Peter Pan: if they had a stronger currency they would have less situations
[18:05] Enoch8: among the wealthiest potential per capita in the world
[18:06] Enoch8: That per capita wealth potential is what determines the value of their money.
[18:07] Enoch8: estimates are from 1.50 to 3.99 by the worlds sharpest macro economists....
[18:08] Enoch8: So here is the dilemma...... do they start low with a controlled float....?
[18:08] Enoch8: Or come in high and let it seek out it's own level?
[18:08] Enoch8: They can do it either way.
[18:08] Peter Pan: don't think so, big egos and pride won't let em start low...
[18:13] Enoch8: Just a wild guess..... but I think it is nothing but political bargaining.
[18:14] Peter Pan: hey E i apreciate your time and info but i'm gonna call it a day , school tomorrow say hi too the wild bunch for me...
[18:15] Enoch8: OK..... be good
[17:37] Peter Pan: yeah like 100,000.00 new millionares in US..
[17:37] Enoch8: I could do memory if I got on a roll Pan....
[17:38] Enoch8: but..... I do not want to hog time on conference
[17:38] Enoch8: there are some brilliant people on those calls...
[17:38] Peter Pan: anyone guess how many deeenar holders are out ther?
[17:38] Peter Pan: i know most just keep quiet
[17:39] frankie: I've heard everything from 75,000 to 250,000. I don't think anyone really knows
[17:39] Peter Pan: ok just about the same that i have heard..
[17:40] Enoch8: I have hear about 250000 in the US.....
[17:40] Enoch8: seems like a reasonable figure
[17:40] Peter Pan: that is one big economical injection
[17:40] Enoch8: times about an average of 3 to 5 million each
[17:41] Peter Pan: i like that 5 times....lol
[17:41] Peter Pan: ohhh 5 mill
[17:42] Peter Pan: thats a lot of cash
[17:42] frankie: well guys. I'm going to watch this movie that hubby has started. ya'll have a good night. see you tomorrow
[17:42] Peter Pan: ok enjoy..
..
[17:42] Enoch8: that is roughly a little over a Trillion in the hands of US investors if that is true....
[17:43] Enoch8: I have heard about 1.5 Trillion IQD
[17:43] Peter Pan: it wiil be felt..
.
[17:43] Peter Pan: so what do you think aboout chap 7
[17:43] Enoch8: That is a heck of a stimulus
[17:44] Peter Pan: will we see it lifted soon?
[17:44] Enoch8: Nope.
[17:44] Peter Pan: not till after the rv?
[17:44] Enoch8: chap 7 is scheduled for the end of 2010 for UNSC Reveiw
[17:45] Enoch8: Per Ban Ki Moon and UNSC Resolutions from the November meetings
[17:45] Enoch8: and see the 33 page GOI Ministry of Planning reports.... submitted to the UN
[17:46] Enoch8: 470 pages.... but F26 Team broke it down to 33 pages...
[17:46] Enoch8: Chap 7 is not an issue for the RV..... IMHO
[17:47] Enoch8: It gives needed protections from suits against the Hussein Regime
[17:47] Enoch8: It also keeps the DFI secure.
[17:47] Peter Pan: what about HCL?
[17:48] Peter Pan: will we seethat one soon?
[17:48] Enoch8: I think the social distributions portion of HCL can be agreed upon.... to see to it the Kurds and Displaced get their fair share of oil revenues.
[17:49] Peter Pan: are they waiting for it?
[17:49] Peter Pan: i mean anytime soon?
[17:50] Peter Pan: or is it a long term proyection
[17:50] Enoch8: There were statements from Talibani and from Maliki.... that there is already HCL and oil revenue distribution set in place to address that issue.
[17:50] Peter Pan: I think so
[17:50] Peter Pan: if not how would they do oil deals
[17:51] Enoch8: It is true.... there are some who want more for certain groups..... but that should not hold anything up
[17:51] Enoch8: It would be like saying..... the US cannot have money..... because we need to have a better system of socialized welfare.
[17:52] Enoch8: That has nothing to do with a fixed rate and recognised value on our currency....
[17:52] Peter Pan: yeah like cosby say's checks will be handed after 40 succesfull school hrs.
[17:52] Enoch8: why would it be so in Iraq?
[17:54] Peter Pan: i remember when it moved pip by pip...
[17:54] Enoch8: There are possibilities of sanctions that could hold it up though.... but I thought
those parts of Chap 7 were taken care of
[17:54] Peter Pan: when i first purchased it was at 1470
[17:55] Enoch8: It has mostly to do with the recognition by WB and IMF investors wanting to invest in Iraq
[17:55] Enoch8: and Iraq holding credibility with the world in good faith
[17:55] Enoch8: That is what it will amount to.... is this question....
[17:55] Peter Pan: like the guy on the call , wanting us investors
[17:56] Enoch8: "Does the world trust Iraq?"
[17:56] Enoch8: I say they are ready to start trusting IRaq as a legitimate Republic.
[17:56] Peter Pan: i do too
[17:57] Enoch8: Just as much so as Saudi Arabia or Kuwait.
[17:57] Enoch8: Or Israel , Egypt or Jordan.
[18:01] Enoch8: IMHO..... they are just as able as Mexico or Guatemala to have a recognized currency.... and certainly more so than China.
[18:03] Enoch8: As far as civil unrest..... as I recall American History..... we have had Revolutions... wars.... Civil Wars... border wars.... 2 World Wars... and many other wars..... street gangs.... organized crime.... gang crimes....
[18:04] Enoch8: etc etc....
[18:04] Enoch8: and still our currency is recognized as a benchmark on the world statge
[18:04] Peter Pan: true
[18:04] Enoch8: so I do not buy this malarky.... that Iraq has too much voilence and disputes to have a real currency
[18:05] Enoch8: They have more potential wealth per capita that does the USA
[18:05] Peter Pan: if they had a stronger currency they would have less situations
[18:05] Enoch8: among the wealthiest potential per capita in the world
[18:06] Enoch8: That per capita wealth potential is what determines the value of their money.
[18:07] Enoch8: estimates are from 1.50 to 3.99 by the worlds sharpest macro economists....
[18:08] Enoch8: So here is the dilemma...... do they start low with a controlled float....?
[18:08] Enoch8: Or come in high and let it seek out it's own level?
[18:08] Enoch8: They can do it either way.
[18:08] Peter Pan: don't think so, big egos and pride won't let em start low...
[18:13] Enoch8: Just a wild guess..... but I think it is nothing but political bargaining.
[18:14] Peter Pan: hey E i apreciate your time and info but i'm gonna call it a day , school tomorrow say hi too the wild bunch for me...
[18:15] Enoch8: OK..... be good
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Do you guys even know what you are even talking about?!!!!!! There are several parts of the Chapter 7 Sanctions. IE: IQD IS NOT A TRADE ABLE CURRENCY!!!!!!!!!!! OR THAT PART OF CHAPTER 7 THAT PROTECTS ASSETS OF IRAQ!!!!!! WHAT GOOD IS AN IQD RV THAT CAN NOT BE TRADED!!!
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