TO BE FOR AMERICA TO TAKE A MAJOR ROLE IN ARRANGING THE POLITICAL SITUATION IN IRAQ

MP Hossam Al-Azzawi: To Be For America to Take a Major Role in Arranging the Political Situation in Iraq

Conscious / Baghdad / and. X
23/1/2010 11:47 pm

A member of the Iraqi Parliament Deputy Hussam al-Azzawi of the Iraqi List, States United States a key partner and has a major role in the political process taking place in Iraq, especially outstanding issues in these difficult circumstances faced by the country.

Al-Azzawi said in a telephone conversation with (the Iraqi Media News Agency / conscious) that Biden's visit comes within the framework of cooperation and mutual understanding between Iraq and the political leaders in the United States, particularly Mai_khas laws that may affect the political process in Iraq, such as the law of the accountability and justice, which concerns the exclusion of some parties on the upcoming parliamentary elections.

We must take the role that the U.S. looms large in the order of the political situation in Iraq and is reflected by the positive impact on the participation of everyone in the formulation of policy concerning the country, noting" that there are serious errors over Iraq as a result of the weakness of the visions that have characterized some political blocs in parliament regarding the application of paragraphs of the constitution being drafted hastily and should be that there will be modifications to some of its provisions to serve Iraq and the Iraqis so that people lived in the stability of the security chief.

And "he was all the parliamentary blocs to accept the outcome of the discussions with Biden, officials in Iraq.
T / and. X

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THE CURRENT LEGISLATIVE TERM CAN NOT BE COMPLETED WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THE GENERAL BUDGET

Maha Periodic For ((et al)): The Current Legislative Term Can Not Be Completed Without the Approval of the General Budget

On: Sunday, 24/01/2010 12:34

The attorney for the Sadrist bloc in the House of Representatives Maha Al Douri said the current legislative term can not be completed without the approval of the general budget.
The league said in a statement summed up by the news agency reported ((et al)) We are used each year to delay the budget and exposure to the beginnings of the interactions and interventions, noting that it would approve the budget because Alvsdil endlessly, but the legislative approval.

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INTERNATIONAL PARTICIPATION THE MOST IMPORTANT STEP TO ACTIVATE THE LOCAL ECONOMY

Economic: International Participation the Most Important Step to Activate the Local Economy

BAGHDAD - Hussein Tgb

President of the Union business should be to head the Iraqi draft budget for the current year towards stimulating the local economy, and give the private sector a distinct role, and give the investor and the Iraqi businessmen in the implementation of priority projects ..

Said in an interview (morning): The Washington Conference of the investment came with positive results on confidence-building and the formulation of a common understanding of the requirements of the revitalization of the Iraqi economy. And increase its role in promoting and sustaining security and stability in the country. He pointed to the existence of great opportunities waiting for international companies to participate as well as companies and local investors in Iraq's reconstruction in various sectors, including electricity, transportation and water treatment as well as services that are expected to be allocated large sums of money ..

He added that the activation of cooperation with France will help in reducing the gap between the two countries. Especially that of French exports to Iraq dropped in the Iraqi market, the proportion (0.5%) and this number is minimal if it has been compared to other countries do not have the resources owned by the France and companies for the various specializations. He pointed to France adopted a set of measures and actions that respond to the requirements of the development of cooperation with the Iraqi government and private. He continued by saying that the EU is working to develop the efficiency of workers under its umbrella to face the next stage. Where waiting for the major tasks in the work of traders and local trade. In which he led the EU to involve a number of international business courses to determine when the use of information technology methods, as well as the Administration's work to raise the scientific level of our members. Especially that this courses developed involving businessmen from all over the world and had the heads of sub-associations in the provinces continue to receive foreign delegations wishing to work in Iraq to carry out projects in all sectors, especially service ones. To activate the cooperation between Iraqi businessmen and foreigners. He explained that the Union participated in many seminars and exhibitions in the reconstruction of Iraq and will provide all the studies that would showcase the most important steps that can be followed in the reconstruction of Iraq after the improvement of the security situation will also be displayed with different mechanisms used in the reconstruction process ... The Union which means to activate the investment law, and calls for foreign investors to invest in the time created a guide to investment in all areas and will begin to be sent to all countries of the world ..

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TERRYK CHAT - 1/23/10

[TerryK] for about 2 minutes
[TerryK] very simular to what happened in nov
[TerryK] 3.86
[TerryK] is what showed up
[TerryK] dont get your nuts in a bunch
[TerryK] im not kidding
[TerryK] i got the call at 7 am
[TerryK] yesterday
[TerryK] we have been trying to find out how this happened
[TerryK] and cdl
[TerryK] you here
[TerryK] anyway cdl knows the systems really well
[TerryK] and what we have come up with is the following
[TerryK] the banks have the rates
[TerryK] and they are plugged in
[TerryK] when they turned on their machines in the am they accidently hit the button for idq
[TerryK] when they were not spose to and caught the error
[Sunglass] TK Adam said if we don’t have a rate by tomorrow AM he will be here to tell us more….. just fyi
[TerryK] thats why i was asking if adam was here
[TerryK] i heard he made that statment
[TerryK] have not looked at posts yet
[TerryK] was lucky to get on
[TerryK] Adam nevers says anything like that
[TerryK] not me
[TerryK] but im not a gurus
[TerryK] im Terryk
[TerryK] I will say if it goes down it will happen in the am
[TerryK] hours
[TerryK] my feelings
[TerryK] before cbi opens
[TerryK] and drive us nuts trying to get to a bank on sunday
[TerryK] I asked my wife where she wanted to go for our anniversary. “Somewhere I haven’t been in a long time!” she said. So I suggested the kitchen
[TerryK] Two times a week we go to a nice restaurant, have a little beverage, good food and companionship She goes on Tuesdays; I go on Fridays.
[govets] TerryK hi, did you see the actual rate on the canadian site?
[TerryK] no i did not
[TerryK] i got the call that morning
[TerryK] one of my canidaian buddys called me
[TerryK] he was poopin his pants
[TerryK] like we were back in nov
[govets] TerryK oh, ok sooo reliable source, cool. thx.
[TerryK] yea
[TerryK] he is good
[TerryK] i want u to think about something
[TerryK] can i have the floor
[TerryK] for a min
[TerryK] u all know about the Gulf Currency
[TerryK] coming out
[TerryK] right
[TerryK] no dont mod
[Sunglass] everyone stop typing and tk don’t ask questions
[TerryK] now there is a push im hearing to hurry up and get this rv going because they are speeding up the gulf currency
[TerryK] the rumor
[TerryK] is
[TerryK] that when the gulf currency comes out
[TerryK] all the other GULF currencies will be going away
[Sunglass] tk type “done” when you are done k?
[TerryK] i dont see that right away
[TerryK] but will be phased out
[TerryK] yes sun
[TerryK] thanks
[TerryK] but the aligning of the currencies has to be right
[TerryK] the rumor
[TerryK] again this week is that IRAQ locked in 3,27
[TerryK] and pulled it back because of kuwait being at 3.90
[TerryK] and agreeded to a rate of 3.86 .04 less than kuwait
[TerryK] now it sure seems funny that this RUMOR was out there Thursday
[TerryK] and then on Friday the canada dudes have that rate show up
[TerryK] done sun
[TerryK] and then on Friday the canada dudes have that rate show up
[TerryK] done sun
[TerryK] so what do u all think
[TerryK] dont know
[TerryK] again all
[TerryK] RUMORS
[TerryK] and little things coming together
[TerryK] alot of politics going on
[TerryK] and shuffle to get the best for IRAQ

EARNEST T BASS POST - Dinar Vets 1/23/10

I have a close friend that has dinar but was getting depressed about waiting so long for RV. He called his relative working at the ******* main branch but they knew nothing at the time but would call if any info came in. I had told him it was a waste of time as they would know nothing. One Sunday recently he called several times in a row but my phone volume was off. I woke to seeabout 15 msgs. So o called to see what the emergency was. His relative called as they had to meet an armored truck with 2 DLR machines for delivery. Also that there were special plated for IQD. He was also told there will be a Fed Res rep on site for the RV anywhere there are DLR machines. So you peeps in NC and SC have a place to go where they can count right there. Hope this helps.

SFMEDIC POST - Apparently Last Night

TIDBIT:
I don't know anything about SFMedic. I was told he is a very nice person "in person", but that he becomes very aggressive when it comes to his online persona. I'm posting this here to say that I wish him well. I am no longer concerned about his threats however, it only gives him publicity when I post his information on here. So, that should be flattering. Also, as I've said before, I have NO ACCESS to any of his sites, so I can't find a post unless it is on another site. It took him all of about 2 hours after threatening shutting down his chat before he was back on spewing this information below. I never claimed to be a guru in this investment, though I do feel I have a sound understanding of what we are dealing with. I appreciate Medic for what he contributes. Though, I'd say his information is only a very small part of what is shared and provided on my sites. Medic, I wish you the best. However, I'd appreciate you not ripping me anymore, as you don't know me. - DD


SFMedic says to (00:12:06):
OK NOW
SFMedic says to (00:12:43):
AS I WAS SAYING
SFMedic says to (00:13:05):
DINAR DADDY WOULDN'T HAVE A BLOG IF IT WASN'T FOR ME
SFMedic says to (00:13:58):
HE CAN'T WRITE HIS OWN OPINIONS SINCE HE PROBABLY IS MORE IGNORANT OF THIS INVESTMENT THAN ANY NEWBIE THAT JUST SHOWED UP
SFMedic says to (00:14:46):
AND IF N E N O' S DIDN'T HAVE ME TO TALK ABOUT
SFMedic says to (00:14:59):
JUST WHAT WOULD THEY HAVE THERE ALSO
SFMedic says to (00:15:44):
I CAN TAKE ACTUALLY GREAT PRIDE IN KNOWING I AM SO IMPORTANT TO THAT SITE ALSO
SFMedic says to (00:15:59):
SO I FIGURED WHY SHOULD I BE MAD

INVESTMENT ALLOCATIONS FOR THIS YEAR WILL PROVIDE 600 THOUSAND JOBS

Political First: Minister of Finance: Investment Allocations For This Year Will Provide 600 Thousand Jobs

Confirmed the Government's Bid to Install the Contractors to Permanent Staffing
Baghdad, Taha Hussein

Finance Minister Baqir Jabr Al-Zubaidi, the government has allocated $ 20 billion for the implementation of new investment projects will contribute in providing more than six hundred thousand jobs for the unemployed, the Ministry expressed a desire for contractors to install permanent staffing gradually.

The minister said in an interview with the "morning" that the government has allocated twenty billion dollars in the current year budget for the implementation of new service projects across the country will work to provide jobs for more than six hundred thousand people from different disciplines, in addition to agreeing to provide more than 115 thousand degrees functional distributed among a number of ministries including the interior, defense, education and health for the operation of sections and departments that have recently opened in those ministries. He pointed out that the ministry will develop a plan to install the contractors with the state departments on staffing and permanent especially diligent of them, noting that the process will be proofed in phases over the coming years, noting that the state budget does not bear the expenses at once, particularly that Iraq had borrowed the amount of six billion dollars International Monetary Fund for the first time after 2003.

With regard to the law of the salaries of employees of the Internal Security Forces which was approved by the Council of Ministers, it was revealed that al-Zubaidi and finance and interior ministries have agreed to calculate the allocations received by police officers from within the nominal salary to benefit from the increase amounts retired.

On the other hand, between al-Zubaidi, the ministry sought to extinguish all debts on Iraq after its previous efforts culminated in success through the reduction of eighty percent of them, stressing that the ministry has recently succeeded to convince a number of creditor nations in extinguishing the debt as was the case with Denmark as well as for the ministry preliminary approval to a number of Arab countries that were determined to keep their debt to extinguish it completely, adding that the government's decision to make the priority to companies in countries which extinguished the debt by one hundred percent of investment in Iraq and contribute to the implementation of reconstruction projects, is urging other nations to take similar steps , warning that the fire will reflect positively on the debt in future fiscal years because Iraq in the absence of reimbursement will put out since 2011. And on the main reasons for re-balancing in 2010 by Parliament and not to ratify it, the minister said: "We are a ministry of finance does not mean that we lack the budget to anything because we are authorized by the law of financial management, release the money since we launched 112,010 and actually pay staff, retirees and protection network Alajtmap and the amounts of the ration card , in addition to ongoing projects, noting that there are points of contention between the government and parliament, most notably ask Parliament to transfer twenty percent of the amounts allocated to the ministries of service to the budget of the provincial councils to give priority to the implementation of recent projects in their districts to get rid of the central system as is the case in most developed countries in the world such as the United States, Spain and India. "We know that the Constitution gives full authority of the Council of Representatives in transfers, according to the article" 62 "of it, but the prime minister insists on non-deductibility of this amount and keep the share of ministries as is". The minister said the thing which does not allow the Ministry of spent longer authenticate the House of Representatives next budget includes the implementation of new projects, these projects are few in number compared to the ongoing projects which constitute the overwhelming majority, calling on all provinces to receive twenty percent of the amounts of financial allocations for each province. In regard to the banking sector, Al-Zubaidi said that the ministry made a great effort in the rehabilitation of this vital sector, especially that it has received a study conducted by the "point tower" recommended that banks should be shut down Iraq, rational and real estate, agricultural and industrial, as she suffers from a real crisis, but the ministry and found better to work to provide adequate support to these banks and restored to its former level, and actually embarked on the rehabilitation of the Land Bank and providing material support a $ 200 million for re-lending activities to the citizens and the Agricultural Bank was able to grant more than 80 thousand loan to finance agricultural projects in 2008 and more than this number in 2009, noting that the way lending is done through the provision of the borrower leaves the agricultural enterprise, which intends to implement in order to determine the right loan with benefits not to exceed 2 percent. The Minister commended the work of the banking sector, stressing that the Rasheed Bank has gone a long work in the application of the banking system overall through visa can deal through which he has a bank account in Baghdad to withdraw the penalty from the rest of the branches of the bank in Basra or Mosul or in Oman or Yemen, and others, noting that the value of establishing this system amounted to ten million dollars.

He added that the ministry's support is not limited to government banks, but included private banks through the allocation of funds for lending, where the bank that can be capitalized at one hundred million dollars of borrowing in the amount of four million dollars and the bank with a balance of less than this amount can get a loan of two million dollars only, stressing that the ministry aims, through this action to encourage banks and increase its capital. Zubaidi revealed that the ministry and, despite its success in rehabilitating the banking sector, but they were unable to re-energize the insurance sector, pointing out that there is a heavy legacy of restrictive laws and Insurance in accordance with the socialist system. He said the ministry is now working within the laws of free market economy, so they need to change those laws, noting that the process requires a long time because of the multiplicity of actors that are subject to the process of passing laws. On the question of removing Iraq from Chapter VII Zubaidi said the government was required to take a number the most important steps to end the file to work on the debt of the country and close the file lawsuits filed on Iraq as a result of the previous regime's practices before the United States and these carry their numbers and amounts of scary up to a trillion dollars, adding the government had formed a committee headed by Advisor to the Prime Minister of Legal Affairs, Dr. Mohammed Fadhil Jawad entered into negotiations with the U.S. State Department which was agreed to pay a specific amount of the U.S. government to settle the compensation with the citizens as I got with Libya and the amount not to exceed four-hundred million dollars. "The other step is the need for Iraq to find an alternative to the expense of the development of Iraq protected by the United Nations and the United States. On the question of Iraq's accession to the WTO, said Zubaidi, Iraq needs time to be able to resolve the issue of which system that works when he was working for the socialist system sometimes and at other times, a free market, noting that the country's accession to this organization requires the introduction of the free market.

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AMERICAN CONTRACTOR BLOG POST - 1/23/10

New Initiative

Iraqi President Jalal Talabani will be announcing a new initiative very soon. I would reveal it but sworn to secrecy!

Posted by American Contractor at 4:14 PM Permalink
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AMERICAN CONTRACTOR: Newsletter 1/23/10

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DINAR DADDY TIDBIT - Just Follow The Money

It’s incredible how such an amazing day of news yesterday…. financial news at that, has generated so much chatter and rumors being posted from so many. Is it a coincidence, or are those who are connected to “sources” finally hearing the real deal is coming down the pipe? I certainly don’t know for sure, but I have discovered a few fantastic articles that give me tremendous hope about my investment in Iraq. The best part about these articles is that they are ALL discussing BIG BUCKS being dropped in Iraq… wish I could join the fray!

Check these investment articles out…

Article: Baghdad Plans 75,000 Apartments to Modernize Slum

Excerpts: “The city of Baghdad asked foreign companies on Thursday to sign up for a project to design and build 75,000 apartments, the first phase of a $10 billion plan to rebuild the Iraqi capital's sprawling Sadr City slum. The entire 56 sq km (22 sq mile) project, to be built over 10 years, includes 150,000 apartments, stores, service buildings, a medical complex, a university and entertainment centers. "It will be a part of Baghdad city but with new, modern construction, not low-cost construction," Baghdad mayor Saber al-Issawi said. "We will build it in a distinctive style." Iraq is trying to line up at least $30 billion in housing and commercial development projects over the next decade as Baghdad tries to rebuild after years of war.”

Link: http://news.alibaba.com/article/detail/markets/100236331-1-baghdad-plans-75%252C000-apartments-modernise.html

Tidbit: Two things must be in place to support such an undertaking: SECURITY to protect such a massive investment from destruction and loss, and a legitimate CURRENCY to pay back any loan or investment. I know no company enters an investment without an exit strategy and legitimate source of income. Either requires being paid in a currency they can use. Why approach foreign companies if you can’t give them something in return that they can use to justify their risk and investment?

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Article: Noor Capital to Build $100m Iraq Hotel (Reuters)

Excerpts: “Abu Dhabi investment company Noor Capital will build a $100 million five-star hotel apartment project in Karbala, Iraq, with UK hospitality developer Range Hospitality..”… “The transaction is in line with Noor Capital’s governing philosophy to promote hospitality projects within the Middle East and in particular within the religious tourism sector,”

Link: http://www.khaleejtimes.com/biz/inside.asp?xfile=/data/business/2010/January/business_January463.xml&section=business&col

Tidbit: The question that comes to my mind reading this is, why would a company that is obviously extremely successful in promoting, “hospitality projects within the Middle East”, risk $100 million in a country with nothing but Iraqi Dinars paying for hotel stays? Such a company has a plan and is confident in “The Plan”… IMO.

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Article: Eni-led Group Inks Oil Deal in Iraq

Excerpts: “Italian energy giant Eni and its consortium partners announced Friday they signed an agreement to redevelop the Zubair oil field in southern Iraq.”… “The consortium said it plans to increase production at the southern oil field by more than 1 million barrels to 1.2 million barrels of oil per day within the next six years.” A consortium led by Italian oil company ENI early Friday finalized a 20-year contract to develop the Zubair oilfield in southern Iraq, the company said in a statement. The consortium, which will invest 20 billion dollars (14 billion euros), groups ENI, with a stake of 32.81 percent, with Occidental Petroleum Corp. (23.44 percent), Korea Gas Corp. (18.75 percent), and Iraqi state oil company Missan (25 percent).”

Link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100122/wl_mideast_afp/italyoileniiraq_20100122130148
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/Resource-Wars/2010/01/22/Eni-led-group-inks-oil-deal-in-Iraq/UPI-44461264178353/

Tidbit: They, like me, feel Iraq’s a good investment long-term. I feel each oil deal “inked” adds another layer of security for the currency of Iraq. Furthermore, each deal secures a value to said currency. Why? A country’s currency is ultimately tied to the potential and current GDP of its host. Iraq’s potential, Iraq’s reserves, and Iraq’s ultimate health as a nation is what will provide the confidence needed to pull the trigger on the RV. Are they ready? We’re watching them prepare...

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Article: Oil Sign With a Coalition of Three International Companies, The Final Contract to Develop the Field of West of Basra, Zubair

Excerpts: “Zubair holds an estimated 4 billion barrels of oil and ranks among the largest discovered fields in the world.”… “A source in the ministry of the National Iraqi News Agency / NINA /: "The representatives of the coalition companies from Italy and the United States and South Korea today signed the final contract to develop the field."

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Tidbit: The “final contract” signed of those awarded? The Arablish is getting to me. LOL! Either way, they continue to press forward. Great news!

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Article: Iraq Is Suddenly an Opportunity

Excerpts: “Compared to what we've seen before—and what might have happened—the overall story is remarkably positive. For the markets, Iraq is suddenly an opportunity. Institutions are becoming legitimate (even with the unresolved Kurdish issue), the army is starting to function, and most important, political leaders from all communities are beginning to recognize the value of Iraq's tremendous natural resource base from which all can benefit if they make compromises to maintain the country's stability. For all the basic governance problems, there's very little chance of Iraq becoming a failed state at this point. As recently as a year ago, that constituted a meaningful risk."

Link: Written by Shawn Baldwin for Bloomberg

Tidbit: How the west was won… over! :)

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Whether it be stories talking about money pouring into Iraq for investment (remember the first rule of investing, you don’t make your money based on how high you sell a stock, but on where you buy it, thus the reason for world-renowned companies’ willingness to risk huge money investing in Iraq... NOW), or money being harvested through the efforts of the world’s largest oil companies for Iraq, it’s clear every major country on this planet has a vested and concerned interest in their success. Wow, what an amazing time in this world’s history! Surely, we are witnessing fulfillment of prophecy. Gratefully, I watch…

As always… Go Dinar!

Dinar Daddy

DINAR DADDY'S TIDBIT

TIDBIT:

Someone's playing games with the budget... lol! Just today we see completely contradictory articles. Keep em coming is what I say... tells me you're hiding something. :)

MONEY DEADLINE FOR APPROVING BUDGET

Abbas al-Bayati: Monday deadline for approving the budget
1/23/2010 2:07:24 PM 1/23/2010 2:07:24 PM
بغداد - الدستور BAGHDAD - The Constitution

قال النائب عن الائتلاف العراقي عباس البياتي، اليوم السبت، إن الاثنين القادم سيكون الموعد النهائي لإقرار الموازنة الاتحادية للعراق لعام 2010، مرجحا أن ينتهي الفصل التشريعي بعد هذا الوقت. MP Abbas al-Bayati, Iraqi Alliance, on Saturday, said that next Monday will be the deadline to approve the federal budget for Iraq in 2010, likely to end legislative term after this time.
وأوضح البياتي أن “يوم الاثنين المقبل هو الموعد النهائي لاقرار الموازنة واذا لم تتفق الكتل السياسية على الموازنة خلال هذه الايام فمن الصعوبة اقرارها”. Al-Bayati explained that "next Monday is the deadline for approving the budget and if the political blocs failed to agree on the budget during these difficult days it is approved."
واشار الى ان “هناك كتلا سياسية ما زالت تصر على ربط قانون السلوك الانتخابي بالموازنة”. He noted that "there are political blocs are still insists on linking the Electoral Code of Conduct budget."
وأثارت موازنة عام 2010 جدلا سياسيا واسعا في الاوساط البرلمانية بسبب ربط بعض الكتل النيابية قرار اقرارها بقانون السلوك الانتخابي الذي يحد من صلاحيات الحكومة وتحويلها الى حكومة تصريف اعمال، بالاضافة الى الاعتراضات التي قدمت من قبل كتل سياسية ابرزها قائمة الائتلاف الوطني العراقي التي اشترطت بتخفيض رواتب الدرجات الخاصة إلى النصف مقابل اقرار الموازنة. And raised the budget in 2010 a political row in circles because of the parliamentary blocs to link some of the parliamentary resolution approved Electoral Code of Conduct, which limits the powers of the government and turn it into a caretaker government, in addition to the objections submitted by the political blocs, notably the Iraqi National List coalition, which required reduction of the salaries of Degrees Special half in return for approving the budget.
وكشف البياتي عن ان “الموازنة كاملة وجاهزة للتصويت وان اللجنة المالية قدمت تقريرها الى رئاسة البرلمان. Revealed al-Bayati as saying "The budget is complete and ready for a vote and that the Finance Committee submitted its report to the presidency of the parliament.

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ENORRSTE POST - Dinar Vets 1/23/10 @ 8:18am EST

I start with this, simply: What do we really know? And then I ask this: How do we know whether there is even an intention of doing an RV?
8:18 AM [Enorrste] Who said so?
8:18 AM [SBX] Enorrste that last question is the best
8:18 AM [Enorrste] Anyone?
8:18 AM [SBX] they dont HAVE to RV...I dont care what anyone says
8:19 AM [Enorrste] And then I bring the documents to prove the case, one by one.
8:19 AM [SBX] they can stall like they are do their thing....no thn cant join WTO....etc..etc
8:19 AM [SBX] but then CAN stay where they are
8:19 AM [SBX] they are not poor....only the people are poor
8:19 AM [Enorrste] So I will do this question tonight/this morning
8:19 AM [Enorrste] It takes me a moment to set up since I will be copying and pasting, OK?
8:20 AM [SBX] if you want a homework assignment then go to school
8:20 AM [Enorrste] no, finance minister, but you will wish that there was one available! .
8:21 AM [Enorrste] I love to see people come to chat with new real research
8:21 AM [Enorrste] How about I start out and give you a taste now?
8:21 AM [Enorrste] OK, bear with me
8:21 AM [tbush] Enorrste go
8:22 AM [Enorrste] I have decided to indulge myself to try to present a unified statement the current situation and where the pieces are starting to fit together.
It is now evident to me that the RV is part of a large political process for the people in control in Iraq. At the same time it is also a part of a very important process in the goings on within the UN. And, finally, I have come to believe that it is going to turn out to be a seminal portion of the US government strategy, inherited from the Bush administration but delightfully now obtained by the Obama administration.
It is now evident to me that the RV is part of a large political process for the people in control in Iraq. At the same time it is also a part of a very important process in the goings on within the UN. And, finally, I have come to believe that it is going to turn out to be a seminal portion of the US government strategy, inherited from the Bush administration but delightfully now obtained by the Obama administration.
:22 AM [Enorrste] The RV event, as I will call it, has had a number of pieces to it that have come to light in the recent past. We can easily recall them: Chapter VII, GCC membership, IMF goals, US Govt involvement due to the war, China as a quickly rising world power; the upcoming Iraqi elections; the Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM); the new IMF loan.
8:23 AM [Enorrste] Now all of us are familiar with these concepts and have heard innumerable explanations as to how they fit into the big RV picture. And with the same familiarity we have seen these scenarios fall by the wayside, one by one. The reason is simple in hindsight: most of these scenarios don’t have enough fact in them to support themselves; so they collapse under their own weight.
8:23 AM [SBX] Theres no new IMF loan
8:23 AM [SBX] maybe we should stop until we can find REAL info that they TOOK the loan
8:23 AM [Enorrste] I wrote this book before that news came out, SBX
8:23 AM [SBX] I see
8:24 AM [Enorrste] What I want to accomplish for us all in this post is to build the grounded base that we have all chatted about on a very solid footing so that we won’t have to cover the same ground again. But more than that I want us all on the same page so that as new information that is backed by a document becomes available we can place it onto our foundation of truth and be able to be confident in it. This would place us uniquely above the blogs and position us to possibly actually know what is going on, if not what is going to go on.
8:24 AM [SBX] just trying to keep everyone up to speed here...not jumping you
8:24 AM [Enorrste] So the goal here is to begin by building blocks of truth, a foundation of knowledge that is irrefutable on which we can add layers as events continue.
8:25 AM [Enorrste] So let’s begin to build our foundation of knowledge. What do we really know?
8:25 AM [Enorrste] Fortunately we know that the Iraqi government and the UN have stated that there is a clear intention to revalue the dinar in the foreseeable future.
8:25 AM [Enorrste] We know this from two documents from legitimate sources. This is our starting point.
8:26 AM [Enorrste] The first document comes from the United Nations itself. I intend this to be the “ground level,” so to speak, and a reference document that will be the “source” document for what we know to be the case.
8:26 AM [Enorrste] Here is the link: http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/20 ... ab3917.doc.htm This link is the actual UN document that says that the UN intends to increase the value of the dinar.
8:26 AM [Enorrste] I'd like you all to copy and paste this link and put it in your "favorites"
8:27 AM [Enorrste] And look at it; I'm going to refill my glass
8:28 AM [Enorrste] What does this mean? Here it is: the UN is trying to more equitably assess dues to its members. It wants to base those dues on the most recent gross national income available and use market exchange rates wherever possible. In the case of Iraq, however, a decision was added to “adjust the market exchange rate for Iraq” in order to get their dues level commensurate with their income.
8:29 AM [Enorrste] Now this is the significant point: the UN is clearly deciding in this document that the dinar has to be revalued in order for Iraq to pay its fair share of UN dues. I see no other explanation possible for this statement on Iraq.
8:29 AM [Enorrste] We now can establish that the UN is “on board” with the revaluation of the dinar. Admittedly it is for reasons of its own; yet the fact remains that it has “decided”, in its own words, to do it. This is key, since when this was written last summer the UN was in control of Iraq. What is said then will indeed happen. After all the UN still controls Iraq.
8:29 AM [Enorrste] Fortunately we also have internal Iraqi documentation that backs up this statement from none other than Nuri al Maliki himself, the head of the government of Iraq.
8:30 AM [Enorrste] The link is as follows: http://www.dinarrumor.com/showthread.php?t=10647 (This is copied from the actual resolution into DinarRumor)
8:31 AM [Enorrste] This document refers to a UN document (which I've seen) that is a resolution of the UN extending Ch 7 until the end of this year.
8:31 AM [Enorrste] At the end of this document is a letter from Maliki to the UN. (I'm not copying this, just letting you know)
8:31 AM [frontrow] allIneedisonemillionusd Kind of like US stocks. A company makes an announcement for a new product (apple) and stocks go up.
8:31 AM [jeff stevens] enorrste what does that mean to us?
8:31 AM [Enorrste] The key statement from Maliki is here, dated 13 December 2009, only 30 days ago : During the remainder of 2009 and in 2010, we will take action to recover the international financial standing of Iraq while at the same time managing oil and gas revenues in order to benefit the people of Iraq.
8:32 AM [Enorrste] Recovering the international financial standing can mean nothing other than revaluing the currency to its former level prior to the Hussein regime.
8:32 AM [SBX] allIneedisonemillionusd yeah 30-40 days ago
8:32 AM [DaveP] Let Enorste speak ..he is sharing some good history...enjoy
8:32 AM [SBX] but remember we are un-imformed here
8:32 AM [Enorrste] We are now in a position to state without hesitation that the RV will occur and that it is in the interest of the UN and Iraq that it occur. In addition, since the UN document refers to dues coming up in 2010 we know that the RV will occur before the dues are paid. And finally we know from Maliki himself that his intention is for this to happen either at the end of 2009 or in 2010.
8:32 AM [financeminister]
8:33 AM [Enorrste] The fact that Maliki mentioned 2009 or 2010 only 17 days before the end of the year is a clear indication that the RV is imminent. If it were not he would have said “in 2010” instead of what he said.
8:33 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] when are the first round of dues, due to be paid?
8:33 AM [Enorrste] We are firmly planted now on solid ground. From clear documentation from the international organization as well as the in-country head we know that the RV will occur in 2010 and most like early in this year.
8:33 AM [Enorrste] But more than that, Maliki was prepared to do the RV as early as the end of 2009, so we can say with confidence that the RV is “at the door”.
8:34 AM [Enorrste] Having established, therefore, that it is the intention to RV the dinar and that it is the intention of the head of Iraq to do so in the very near future we need to see how he might accomplish this from documents, to ensure that his statement to the UN comes to pass.
8:35 AM [Enorrste] We can do this quite simply and without having to resort to loans from the IMF or expiration dates of a programmed rate or even loan payment deadlines. All we have to do is look at the documents and figure out what they mean and how they apply.
8:35 AM [Enorrste] Now, I could go to the next section but I think you are getting my drift
8:36 AM [Enorrste] right?
8:36 AM [jzar] Enorrste do you have this kind of information that leads you to an estimated rate?
8:36 AM [SBX] Enorrste I hate to back up a second...but this shows the dues payments correct http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/t ... &extend=y#Desc
8:36 AM [Enorrste] So from here on it gets complicated
8:36 AM [DaveP] Hel....go on Enorste..it's Sat morn...what else do we have to do
8:41 AM [Enorrste] Ok I have a problem with my 'puter; even though I'm on line it thinks I'm off line; I will save and figure it out later.
8:41 AM [Enorrste] So can someone tell me these two things: when is the payment due and how much is it?
8:41 AM [SBX] allIneedisonemillionusd Special Drawing Rights
8:42 AM [Enorrste] let's hold SDRs for later, OK
8:42 AM [SBX] Enorrste first one is may for 84,743
8:42 AM [kedwa420] Assessments_SDR May 01, 2010 84,743 Total for the year 2010 84,743
8:42 AM [SBX] Enorrste ytou can hold if you want
8:42 AM [SBX] the payment is die in may
8:42 AM [SBX] due
8:42 AM [SBX] and due every may for the next 15 years
8:42 AM [Enorrste] One more question
8:42 AM [frontrow] Did they have payment required last May?
8:42 AM [SBX] frontrow this I dont know
8:42 AM [frontrow] If so, did they pay?
8:42 AM [Enorrste] What, specifically, is the payment for?
8:42 AM [Enorrste] What, specifically, is the payment for?
8:43 AM [Enorrste] What loan?
8:43 AM [Enorrste] from the IMF?
8:43 AM [SBX] I dunno
8:43 AM [SBX] I dont think theres a new loan
8:43 AM [DINARMONSTER] 5,5 billion loan
8:43 AM [Enorrste] well, we need to know that
8:43 AM [SBX] its weird
8:43 AM [SBX] I cant believe that with your research you have never seen the link
8:43 AM [Enorrste] no DM, they didn't take that loan (I knew they wouldn't)
8:43 AM [SBX] WERD
8:44 AM [SBX] yeah I spelt that wrong
8:44 AM [SBX] on purpose
8:44 AM [frontrow] I wonder if IMF could let them defer payment for a year or 'x' amount of time...let's hope they say put Iraq in a full nelson and say pay up
8:44 AM [Enorrste] I'll tell you why I haven't found this SBX
8:44 AM [Enorrste] I detemined some time ago that loans to the IMF do not affect the RV one iota; so I don't follow them
8:44 AM [SBX] allIneedisonemillionusd SDR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special ... Drawing_Rights
8:46 AM [tbush] EddieX welcome back
8:46 AM [SBX] they owe something
8:46 AM [SBX] I will tell you that much
8:45 AM [SBX] Enorrste its not a loan payment
8:45 AM [Enorrste] The fact is that if you go to the IMF site and then to "country" and then to Iraq
8:45 AM [Enorrste] you will see that Iraq does not owe the IMF one dime
8:45 AM [SBX] bullcrap
8:45 AM [SBX] this is on the IMF site
8:45 AM [frontrow] Enorrste what is it then?
8:45 AM [SBX] can you click this link
8:45 AM [SBX] http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/t ... key=2009-12-31
8:45 AM [kdsyaya] Enorrste dfe posted about this days ago, it's in the forum.
8:45 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] do they just take it from the DFI without it ever becoming an outstanding debt?
8:45 AM [EddieX] Oh boy...
8:46 AM [tbush] uh oh
8:46 AM [kerrybas77] EddieX - hey
8:46 AM [SBX] and then click projected payments over on the left
8:46 AM [Enorrste] I don't think so SBX
8:46 AM [EddieX] tbush Thanks but...
8:47 AM [mtaajj] kerrybas77 whats up bro?
8:47 AM [kerrybas77] Enorrste - bullcrap to quote a famous mod (cudn't resist SBX)
8:47 AM [SBX] if you could click the links you would see
8:47 AM [tbush] <<<<<8:50 AM [SBX] however..as you said...probably has nothing to to with the rv
8:50 AM [Enorrste] for some reason the links don't go through; I told you that I am online but the computer is so stupid it thinks I'm not online
8:51 AM [SBX] ok...well...thats fine
8:51 AM [Enorrste] OK. let me just disconnect and reconnect; that will fix it.
8:51 AM [Enorrste] I will be back
9:03 AM [Enorrste] Well I am back
9:03 AM [mikey] EddieX ummmmmmmmmm ok her goes
9:03 AM [jzar] SBX I see it back to Jan of 2008
9:03 AM [Enorrste] You will not believe this
9:03 AM [SBX] jzar what did you change in the url
9:03 AM [Enorrste] I rebooted and started over completely
9:03 AM [jzar] 2009 to 2006
9:03 AM [Enorrste] and went on the net
9:03 AM [jzar] SBX after you were at the IMF
9:04 AM [Enorrste] and every link works, except imf.org
9:05 AM [Enorrste] I'll verify and eat crow later, OK?
9:05 AM [SBX] no need to eat crow
9:05 AM [SBX] its dues
9:05 AM [SBX] that iraq is paying to the IMF
9:05 AM [babysnake] Doughboi it doesn't matter if the banks are open, they gotta be a member of the world trade before they can RV
9:06 AM [Enorrste] That's more like it; Iraq doesn't owe the IMF a dime, as I said
9:06 AM [SBX] Enorrste well...yes and no
9:06 AM [SBX] they dont owe for a loan
9:06 AM [Enorrste] ok, go on
9:06 AM [SBX] tey do owe dues
9:06 AM [cantwait500] yes it would be the first day of the work week
9:06 AM [Doughboi] babysnake thanks
9:06 AM [Enorrste] yes, just like they owe the UN dues
9:06 AM [SBX] you cant stay in certain neighborhoods without payintthe fees
9:06 AM [Enorrste] OK, OK, OK
9:06 AM [babysnake] Doughboi yw
9:06 AM [SBX] you cant stay in the un..imf..etc
9:06 AM [SBX] without paying the fees
9:07 AM [DaveP] Would someone with creds address babysnakes statement that they can't RV without becoming a member of WTO
9:07 AM [Doughboi] Who all here is willing to trust there Bank
9:07 AM [tadams] what happened to "he has to rv before the election" consensus?
9:07 AM [Enorrste] But I'm talking about a loan like the 7 trillion dinar loan; didn't happen and they don't owe a dime of any loan of that sort
9:07 AM [SBX] DaveP I dont know...I think they can RV without becoming part of the WTO...but they cant join th WTO without RVing
9:07 AM [Soldier] DaveP Well that would mean it would be another year for that to happen
9:07 AM [SBX] Enorrste we know it did not happen
9:07 AM [SBX] we have a BIG thread here in the forum about this
9:08 AM [jzar] SBX I sent the link in a PM
9:08 AM [Enorrste] so we are back on the same page?
9:08 AM [DaveP] Thank you SBX....would have said the same thing myself...but wtf
9:08 AM [EddieX] ...
9:08 AM [chas32] I htink the dues on the imf website are according to "present" exchange rates - Iraq's dues are 84,743 per year. US dues are 2,637,972 per year.
9:08 AM [SBX] Enorrste heres a good link http://www.aknews.com/en/aknews/2/105374/
9:08 AM [babysnake] SBX so either way we can't cash in until they join -the wto is that right?
9:09 AM [SBX] babysnake I dont agree with that.....but cant say for sure
9:09 AM [DaveP] forgive me...should not have used abbreviation....I'm sorry
9:09 AM [babysnake] SBX oh i was just asking
9:09 AM [Enorrste] go figure; that link worked!
9:09 AM [Enorrste] I've seen that link before; that's where they "shine on" the IMF on the 7 trillion
9:10 AM [Enorrste] Does anyone want to get "complicated" now?
9:10 AM [Enorrste] I can talk about WTO, but not yet
9:10 AM [Enorrste] remember, building blocks, right?
9:10 AM [babysnake] Enorrste why not
9:11 AM [Enorrste] later
9:11 AM [Enorrste] baby, were you here when I started this?
9:11 AM [babysnake] Enorrste no
9:11 AM [Enorrste] OK, I said I would present facts on a building block format
9:11 AM [Enorrste] one step at a time
9:12 AM [chas32] Enorrste do you mind me asking - are you on some sort of position to know certain things...or are you just like us - researching?
9:12 AM [Enorrste] starting with the 2 docs I've already shown you
9:12 AM [SBX] chas32 researching
9:12 AM [chas32] Okay...thank you SBX
9:12 AM [Enorrste] that show clearly that the UN and Maliki have put in writing that they intend to RV
9:12 AM [Enorrste] I research, chas
9:13 AM [SBX] I want to say that I appriciate the info...research that Enorrste is bringing...all in one place at one time...but I dont appriciate the "dumbing down" that is coming with it
9:13 AM [Enorrste] Now to my knowledge, simple as it is to find those two docs, no one has done it, yet
9:13 AM [SBX] no need to assume that we all need to start with 2+2 here
9:13 AM [Enorrste] I am not trying to dumb down anyone, SBX
9:13 AM [SBX] carry on....I have things to do.....
9:13 AM [Nance] SBX some of us need parts dumbed down...
9:13 AM [Enorrste] but I do believe that what I brought is new to you all
9:13 AM [Enorrste] am I wrong?
9:14 AM [Nance] no
9:14 AM [babysnake] Enorrste nope
9:14 AM [DaveP] SBX...so true for you and hopefully me...but man...you have seen some of the stuff here....? Hel....you have to dumb it down....
9:14 AM [Enorrste] Has ANYONE told you how we know that an RV is "in the cards"
9:14 AM [SBX] did you not see alli need and I just talking about your maliki document saying this is 30-40 day old news
9:14 AM [SBX] ?
9:14 AM [SBX] we have seen these docs...
9:14 AM [SBX] as I said I appriciate you sharing it all at one time in one place
9:14 AM [EddieX] People have been usign this info before but people aren't paying attention.
9:14 AM [SBX] no doubt..your doing a great job with your research
9:14 AM [SBX] and putting it all together
9:15 AM [Enorrste] but did anyone see the letter from Maliki and see that he was committing to the RV in it?
9:15 AM [DaveP] We love you E.....! Go.....!
9:15 AM [SBX] Enorrste I am pretty sure its in our forum
9:15 AM [SBX] but again...
9:15 AM [SBX] only some see it
9:15 AM [Enorrste] I have no desire to banter in any form whatsoever
9:15 AM [babysnake] Enorrste , i have monies here from other 3rd world countries , banks would not trade,,,why you ask> because they were not on the WTO
9:15 AM [SBX] your saying it all in one place at one time
9:15 AM [SBX] so carry on
9:15 AM [SBX] I am out anyhow
9:15 AM [Soldier] Enorrste So what did M say about the RV
9:16 AM [babysnake] Enorrste ty for info
9:16 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] i hope someone will post this entire chat
9:16 AM [Enorrste] Ah, this is so difficult with so many people.
9:16 AM [Soldier] Did he say anything about a Date before the election
9:16 AM [sxottj] Enorrste I read the letter, but I do not recall all the info in it.
9:16 AM [Nance] what helps me is the way it is being presented - I read everything in the forums but have trouble putting it together in a way that makes sense...
9:16 AM [Enorrste] Soldier, did you just arrive?
9:16 AM [Soldier] been here from the start
9:16 AM [prosperinit] just sit back and listen to Enorrste. He has his stuff together. been chatting with him a while now. He goes in steps so all can see. No better info on the net just listen. And it don't matter to me I can chat with him on other site
9:16 AM [DaveP] Enorrste...I don't banter either...but it's refreshing to have documented consolidation of past recent developments...please continue
9:16 AM [Enorrste] then why would you ask that question?
9:17 AM [govets] Gm, can we all refrain from typing until Enorrste is finished typing? thanks.
9:17 AM [Enorrste] the second document is a letter from Maliki to the UN in which he states his intention to RV the dinar in 2009 or 2010
9:17 AM [sue4toos] please continue Enorrste
9:17 AM [Enorrste] right?
9:17 AM [Soldier] Enorrste Yes I saw that
9:17 AM [Enorrste] Ok,
9:18 AM [Soldier] But did he saying recent is what im asking
9:18 AM [Enorrste] Now it gets complicated from here on, trust me
9:18 AM [puffsplus] I have copied from the start, will edit and post....so please let him continue.
9:18 AM [Soldier] np
9:18 AM [sxottj] puffsplus thanks, quiet for now from me.
9:18 AM [Enorrste] YES, he wrote the letter on Dec 13 and said, "in 2009 or 2010". which means he had only 17 days left in 2009
9:18 AM [Enorrste] RIGHT?
9:18 AM [Doughboi] Right
9:18 AM [Soldier] right
9:19 AM [Doughboi] Right
9:19 AM [Soldier] right
9:19 AM [Enorrste] he said in 2009 or 2010, which means he thought it might happen in the next 13 DAYS, right?
9:19 AM [Doughboi] Right
9:19 AM [serpico007] yes
9:19 AM [Soldier] NO
9:19 AM [Enorrste] So it is "imminent", period
9:20 AM [serpico007] yes
9:20 AM [Enorrste] why no?
9:20 AM [Soldier] Well alot of stuff has happen since then
9:20 AM [Soldier] No WTO member
9:20 AM [Jospar05] Question... If this RV's over the weekend, would we know the day of or would it be the following Monday(business day)?
:20 AM [Enorrste] but he wrote it to the UN; was he lying?
9:20 AM [Soldier] Bombings
9:20 AM [Enorrste] Don't bring in the WTO yet, please?
9:20 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] why can't the imf take iqd for the assessment payment
9:20 AM [Soldier] Possible Coups
9:20 AM [Soldier] Corrupt Govern.
9:20 AM [DaveP] Enorrste....some are hung up on not being a WT
9:20 AM [serpico007] Soldier you need to stop talking and listen
9:21 AM [sxottj] Enorrste just go on, we understand you. and those that say no, may have a better understanding when you are done.
9:21 AM [Soldier] Elections getting closer
9:21 AM [DaveP] O member ....tell whats needed
9:21 AM [Enorrste] Hang on
9:21 AM [Soldier] He asked me why
9:21 AM [serpico007] Soldier just stop talking
9:21 AM [Enorrste] In my opinion the next "player" in the rumor mill will be the WTO, or World Trade Organization. So, in an attempt to head off the next rumor I thought it would be nice to post the following for link:
9:21 AM [Enorrste] http://en.aswataliraq.info/?p=122744 And here is the relevant quote:
9:22 AM [Enorrste] Iraq seeks full WTO membership during conf. Monday Iraq seeks full WTO membership during conf. Monday
9:22 AM [Jospar05] Outstanding answer... you all are incredible.
9:22 AM [Enorrste] November 29, 2009 - 04:14:39 BAGHDAD / Aswat al-Iraq: Iraq will attend the World Trade Organization (WTO) ministerial conference to be held in Geneva on Monday within third-round negotiations to be granted full membership in the world body, according to an Iraqi Trade Ministry media source on Sunday.
9:22 AM [harrynutz] thats an old article though
9:22 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] old
9:22 AM [Enorrste] “A delegation from the higher national committee led by Acting Trade Minister Safaa al-Din al-Safi will be attending the three-day WTO ministerial conference. The delegation will discuss ways to have Iraq obtain full-fledged membership instead of its current observer status,” Faraj al-Jaafari told Aswat al-Iraq news agency."
9:22 AM [Enorrste] Now, that seems positive, doesn't it? And of course the rumor is this: "Iraq must have a recognized currency in order to become a full fledged member in the WTO." But is Iraq a member, yet?
9:22 AM [Enorrste] Here is the link: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp ... c=Worldupdates
9:22 AM [harrynutz] it was stated recently that Iraq will not be in the WTO for awhile
9:22 AM [Enorrste] And here is the relevant quote from November 23, 2009: Iraq could join WTO by end of 2011- U.S. official
9:23 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] link broke
9:23 AM [Soldier] harrynutz at least another year is what it said
9:23 AM [Enorrste] BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq could get membership in the World Trade Organization by end-2011 if it actively pursues accession, which could help the country's rebuilding efforts by boosting trade and investment, a U.S. official said. OK, let's put this rumor to bed before it shows up next week!
9:23 AM [beau777] The last link is no good
9:23 AM [Enorrste] Enough on that?
9:24 AM [Enorrste] Now, complicated, right?
9:24 AM [SBX] why is it complicated
9:24 AM [Enorrste] I thought you left
9:24 AM [kkjk] How about the MOP article discussing feasability studies at $1.13?
9:24 AM [Soldier] Its not complicated
9:24 AM [DaveP] no
9:24 AM [Nance] we're going there now
9:24 AM [babysnake] just means we gotta wait another year
9:24 AM [THJ] Enorrste So the RV Sunday is well within the realm of possibility based on fact not rumor?
9:24 AM [Enorrste] I have a suggestion:
9:25 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] trying to bridge these unbridgable thoughts is
9:25 AM [bonecollector] ignorance is complicated....... exp.... maliki, shabibi
9:25 AM [DaveP] Get a recognizied currency ...join WTO....babysnake...did you see that?
9:25 AM [Enorrste] if you do not find the next section complicated you let me know
9:25 AM [Soldier] THJ depends on whose facts your looking at
9:25 AM [EddieX] SBX, you guys can check IPs right? Something seems VERY familiar here.
9:25 AM [Enorrste] I've never been here before, Eddie
9:25 AM [bonecollector] Enorrste continue
9:25 AM [babysnake] DaveP i saw 2011 before getting on the wto
9:25 AM [bonecollector] please
9:26 AM [THJ] kkjk In that same article it was stated that the GOI considered the value of NOD/IQD was 3.2.
9:26 AM [Enorrste] Ok
9:26 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] Enorrste you sound exactly like . . . . . .???????
9:26 AM [DaveP] I can't stand it anymore....thanks Enorrste...and good luck....time for breakfast
9:26 AM [kkjk] THJ, that is an article you cannot debunk, no date though
9:26 AM [Soldier] <-excatly what I said 9:26 AM [bonecollector] just let him finish... if u dont like it dont read it 9:26 AM [Enorrste] Here it comes; please just allow me to present the case; then tell me if it is complicated or not, OK? 9:26 AM [harrynutz] Enorrste the information you are presenting is great. Most is older news that many of our members have found via research themselves. But you are putting it all together. Very good, and easy to understand. Please dont come here thinking that the members are of a lower level intellegice than what you are used to dealing with though. We have some very bright very informed people, I dont mean infogurus, I mean people thta know how to research and undersstand the news. 9:26 AM [dirtman_00] sounds like Frank/ 9:26 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] I like it continue please 9:27 AM [THJ] kkjk 6 October 2009 9:27 AM [harrynutz] thanks ghost... 9:27 AM [kkjk] is that when it originated or was posted? 9:27 AM [harrynutz] ALL old news 9:27 AM [Enorrste] As I said earlier, harry, I have no desire to "lord it over" anyone. 9:27 AM [Jospar05] This comes from a guy named Harrynutz... Amazing 9:27 AM [EddieX] Wow...things have changed in a week. That's funny. 9:27 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] harrynutz nice name 9:27 AM [Enorrste] I just happen to believe that in all of this "mess" I have figured it out 9:28 AM [harrynutz] what did I say? 9:28 AM [Enorrste] I don't need to do this. I am happy at my other site 9:28 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] Enorrste continue, start with the date and rate 9:28 AM [THJ] kkjk Date on the document. 9:28 AM [indigo] can't you just listen? he has done awesome research and puts it in terms that anyone can understand if they want to 9:28 AM [Nance] Enorrste continue 9:28 AM [cantwait500] Enorrste thats why u have my undivided attention... 9:28 AM [Enorrste] I was invited here by Adam and agreed to come on and see if I could add something to the group 9:28 AM [Jospar05] You expect to be taken serious with a name like harrynutz?? 9:28 AM [Soldier] Enorrste so if it doesn't happen in the near future. What are you doing to say about it then 9:28 AM [kkjk] THJ tnx 9:28 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] just continue already 9:28 AM [kimmy] Enorrste plz don't let some ruin this for others who appreciate the info 9:28 AM [sue4toos] That bold print came from the mod not harry! 9:28 AM [harrynutz] well, is it not all old news? 9:28 AM [papakic] harrynutz Yes Very Smart peeps like you with a name like you have 9:28 AM [Kevin H.] Enorrste please do 9:29 AM [Enorrste] I will say it hasn't happened yet, Soldier; what else could I say? 9:29 AM [Soldier] If all points refer to the near future lets just say the 7th. Than what? 9:29 AM [harrynutz] PEOPLE 9:29 AM [govets] Ghost mod, is there anyway to stop the typing so, we can get the info from Enorrste? thx. 9:29 AM [RVnow] we need some smart talk in here lets have it... 9:29 AM [pleasantvalleySunday] wow why is everyone treating this newcomer (here at Adams invite) so rudely this am?? 9:29 AM [harrynutz] i did not say any of that Enorrste your welcome here. but did you read my post above? 9:29 AM [digitaldean] why don't you quit interfering and let him finish... 9:29 AM [harrynutz] it is ghost...no tme 9:29 AM [kimmy] pleasantvalleySunday thank you 9:29 AM [harrynutz] lmao 9:29 AM [pleasantvalleySunday] ghost ...it's you're 9:29 AM [RVnow] kimmy helllo 9:29 AM [Enorrste] Yes, I thought that was from Harry 9:29 AM [babysnake] shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh y'all 9:29 AM [harrynutz] no 9:29 AM [sue4toos] 9:29 AM [papakic] harrynutz you have the nerve 9:30 AM [Soldier] Enorrste I dont mean to interrupt. If your not finished I will hold my questions to the end 9:30 AM [harrynutz] Enorrste i never said that 9:30 AM [azareus] kimmy where is terry 9:30 AM [Enorrste] sorry harry 9:30 AM [harrynutz] np 9:30 AM [kimmy] azareus idk 9:30 AM [RVnow] hellloooooo 9:30 AM [kullen1] I for one appreciate all info, please continue Enorrste!! 9:30 AM [Enorrste] I haven't started yet,, soldier 9:30 AM [RVnow] helllloooo RVNOW is here 9:30 AM [Soldier] okay sorry 30 AM [Nance] Stop Typing !!!!!!!!!!!! 9:30 AM [pleasantvalleySunday] everyone SHUT the heck up for a while! 9:30 AM [Jospar05] Can Anyone answer my question... if you dont know.. just say so 9:30 AM [RVnow] wow 9:30 AM [RVnow] sorry i won't say hello 9:30 AM [Traconesu02] Enorrste I would like to hear this complicated part 9:31 AM [Enorrste] This is why I was reluctant to do this; the sun is coming up and EVERYONE wants to chat 9:31 AM [govets] Jospar05 please hold your questions for after this info from enorrste..thanks. 9:31 AM [Enorrste] I have no problem with that, but it isn't easy to present a "case" in this environment 9:31 AM [Traconesu02] Enorrste That is for sure 9:31 AM [indigo] enorrste go ahead--many people want to know 9:31 AM [Jospar05] Well is he going to give the info or dance around it for another hour? 9:31 AM [Enorrste] The forum I belong to has a total of about 335 members 9:31 AM [DaveP] Mods...how about helping here..and moderate this room Let Enorrste talk if he wants to share. No need for everyone to keep asking him to please share
9:31 AM [Enorrste] only 35 or so in chat at once
9:31 AM [Bamadreamer] please let Enorrste continue
9:32 AM [Enorrste] and we respect each other greatly
Please stop talking if hes going to continue
9:32 AM [jeff stevens] Please stop typing
9:32 AM [puffsplus] ok guys....you asked for this to be copied and posted later, I've kept up until now....please keep comments to minimum or it can't be done! thanks or I can not capture it up to you.
9:32 AM [Enorrste] and don't interrupt, except when it is for clarification
9:32 AM [Enorrste] and certainly not to change the subject at hand
Enorrste either share, or move on please
9:32 AM [Enorrste] in fact, we have a "topic" and all are expected to stay on topic
seems we are starting to talk negative about the forum here based on its size
9:33 AM [Enorrste] thanks ghost, I do appreciate it
9:33 AM [DaveP] Geez ghost..now you're interrupting
9:33 AM [chris0985] So whats new this morning?
9:33 AM [Enorrste] So we now move to the next link'
:34 AM [mac lightning] PING.............................................. ..............................................
9:34 AM [mac lightning] mornin all
9:34 AM [Enorrste] It is fairly long and has to be brought over in pieces
9:34 AM [Enorrste] Conscious / MP Sabah al-Saadi: In the Absence of Approving the Budget, the Government Would Resort to Exchange Rate Mechanism in the Next Week Conscious / Baghdad / p. X 5/1/2010 6:50 pm The Attorney-Sabah al-Saadi on the mass of virtue that not approving the budget means to give the opportunity for the Government to find the exchange rate mechanism, especially in the twelfth of this month for the maintenance work of the ministries and government institutions.
9:34 AM [Enorrste] Saadi said in a telephone conversation with (the Iraqi Media News Agency / conscious) that "the linkage between the law of the Federal budget for 2010 and the Electoral Code of Conduct is not just for the fact that the financial budget Aims to support the wheel of the state of Iraq in building, construction, investment, either the Electoral Code of Conduct which regulates the work of actors in the political, governmental mechanisms for the disbursement of state funds in order not to allow them to exploit the money for their campaigns. "
9:35 AM [rbhrt] Enor!! Gm!!
9:35 AM [mtaajj] its it going
9:35 AM [Enorrste] He added that "the Iraqi parliament work of great importance, namely the ratification of the federal budget for the continuity of work in government ministries, as we reflect on the end of the legislative term of life of the parliament completed the budget law and to ratify it." As well as "completion of the electoral code of conduct because this law will determine the exchange rate mechanism, political entities so that there is not financial corruption by the state to finance election campaigns and also to stop Power of some parties at the expense of some of the entities participating in the upcoming parliamentary elections "
9:36 AM [Enorrste] I'm back. Here is the important phrase: as "completion of the electoral code of conduct because this law will determine the exchange rate mechanism
9:36 AM [Enorrste] now finishing the quote
9:36 AM [Enorrste] Adding "in the absence of ratification of the budget during these days Vstljo government to exchange rate mechanism, legal The effect on 12 /1 1-12 With a view to continuing the performance of ministries and government institutions and service productivity. "
9:37 AM [Enorrste] OK, we need to analyze this quote and pay particular attention to the part I "pulled out"
9:38 AM [babysnake] sounds like rv after election to me
9:38 AM [Enorrste] We now know what it means. I will explain why I believe I am right.
9:38 AM [Enorrste] The second piece of he puzzle is now before us. We know that the RV will take place, and soon, from the first two documents. This document adds information that at first appears to muddy the waters but will be shown to actually clarify the issue for us.
9:38 AM [Enorrste] The statement is simple: passing of the ECC will “determine” the ERM. As I stated in my post this makes no sense whatsoever in English. But if we understand that it is a translation from Arabic to English we can obtain the meaning.
9:38 AM [Enorrste] The statement is simple: passing of the ECC will “determine” the ERM. As I stated in my post this makes no sense whatsoever in English. But if we understand that it is a translation from Arabic to English we can obtain the meaning.
9:38 AM [Enorrste] does everyone know what ECC and ERM mean?
9:39 AM [Nance] yes
9:39 AM [sxottj] yes
9:39 AM [Enorrste] Anyone NO?
9:39 AM [Enorrste] oki
9:39 AM [chris0985] I know what ERM is but not ECC
9:39 AM [THJ] Enorrste Define!
9:39 AM [powerfulp] no
9:39 AM [pleasantvalleySunday] think pretty much everyone is up to snuff on terms
9:39 AM [crndog10] code of conduct?
9:39 AM [Enorrste] OK,
9:39 AM [govets] Enorrste yes.
9:39 AM [Enorrste] the ECC is the Electoral Code of Conduct
9:39 AM [Enorrste] a law that needs to be passed by the Iraqi parliament to ensure fair elections
9:40 AM [Enorrste] The ERM is the Exchange Rate Mechanism
9:40 AM [Sunglass] Hi Enorrste. Long time since I got to be in a chat room with you. GM!!!
9:40 AM [Jospar05] Give us the importance of understanding this has been translated from arabic to english please.
9:40 AM [Enorrste] which has to do with regulating fluctuations between currencies of different countries
9:40 AM [Enorrste] I will, Jospar, hang on
9:41 AM [Enorrste] The ERM was used prior to bringing the EU to Europe
9:41 AM [powerfulp] got it...
9:41 AM [Enorrste] to ensure that individual countries didn't go "crazy" prior to the creation of the EU
9:41 AM [Enorrste] Euro
9:42 AM [Enorrste] It has also been used recently during the reval of the Venezuelan currency
9:42 AM [Enorrste] and Bulgaria has asked that it be imposed in an effort to enter the Euro
9:42 AM [wayneabwa] sunglass do we still have to pm ourselves so it won't kick us off?
9:42 AM [Enorrste] and even China has used the ERM
9:42 AM [Sunglass] no wayne, you are ok
9:42 AM [Enorrste] back to the analysis, OK?
9:43 AM [Enorrste] The word “determine” has many meanings in English. The most used is to “make happen”. For this reason it doesn’t make sense that the ECC would “make happen” the ERM. They aren’t really related to each other. The first deals with election fraud and the second with currency fluctuations.
9:43 AM [Enorrste] However if we use a less known meaning of the word “determine” in this document it all becomes more clear. That meaning is to “render” or “allow to occur”. It softens the determinative nature of the word that first comes to mind.
9:44 AM [Enorrste] This is what occurred to me this evening and when it did it all made sense. The ECC and the ERM are not directly related, obviously. They refer to two different functions completely. But if the creation of one leads to the enactment of the other then we have not only a relationship but we can also say that the first “determined” the second. Or, to soften it, the first “rendered or allowed” the second to occur.
9:44 AM [Enorrste] Let’s put this into simple English. What the document states is this: “Unless and until the ECC is passed the ERM can’t come into play.” In other words the passage of the ECC is necessary (determines) for the ERM to take affect.
9:44 AM [crndog10] makes sense
9:45 AM [Enorrste] Let’s summarize where we are, at ground level. We now know from documentation that the RV will take place, that it will take place soon, and that the passage of the Electoral Code of Conduct is necessary to be in place prior to the Exchange Rate Mechanism becoming affective.
9:45 AM [Enorrste] The passage of the ECC is a necessary precursor (determines) as to whether the ERM will come into play. While it doesn’t literally give birth to the ERM, the ERM will not be in play without it.
9:45 AM [Enorrste] Events are enfolding quickly since both the ECC and the ERM are already in place!
9:46 AM [Enorrste] Among the many news links that show the ECC passed is this one: http://www.paltelegraph.com/world/mi ... -electoral-law
9:46 AM [Enorrste] The law was passed on December 7, 2009, less than 35 days ago, and even then only with the concerted 11th hour phone call from President Obama. This is from the news directly.
9:47 AM [Enorrste] Interjection; I wrote this some time ago and the 35 days is now 46
9:47 AM [Enorrste] We now move into the realm of logic and reasoning The logic and reasoning will be based upon sound documentation.
9:47 AM [Jospar05] Enorrste> isnt the ERM set at 1.13?
9:47 AM [Enorrste] no, Jospar, I do not believe it is
9:47 AM [Enorrste] We have Maliki deeply involved in this, clearly. He has stated his intentions to the UN that he intends to RV the dinar and bring Iraq into the “international financial community” from our second document. He clearly has the backing of the UN from the first document.
9:48 AM [Enorrste] So what is relevant? Only two things are relevant. They are the ECC and the ERM. Let’s figure out why.
9:48 AM [Enorrste] We now know that the relationship between the ECC and the ERM is that the first must precede the second. Yet the word “determines” hangs in the balance between them for an additional reason which we now need to explore.
9:48 AM [Enorrste] The ECC, the Electoral Code of Conduct, is a law that lays out for the Iraqi people what can and cannot occur prior to this important election. It is a standard, if you will, placed right before the election to allow for a clean and fair fight.
9:49 AM [Enorrste] President Obama would use the word “transparency” to describe the purpose of this law.
9:49 AM [Enorrste] Wait, President Obama was the arbiter at the 11th hour to ensure that this law was passed. Is the “transparency” president injecting himself into this? No doubt about it, folks.
9:49 AM [Enorrste] It is logical and reasonable that the Iraqi people would want a transparent election. But the need for a special “transparency” law just prior to the election seems a bit contrived, don’t you think?
9:50 AM [Enorrste] I mean aren’t there already election laws? Iraq didn’t form out of a bubble. They’ve actually had a couple elections already, and successfully. So what’s the big deal? And why is Obama involved?
9:50 AM [Enorrste] Yet the law passes and no one is the wiser. We now have “transparency” in Iraq just prior to the election, thanks to President Obama and Mr. Maliki.
9:50 AM [Enorrste] However, it apparently occurred to Mr. Maliki that this was not enough to ensure his election without question. And at this point we aren’t even sure he has a very good chance to be elected, but he seems to have a plan, and the plan involves the ECC. The plan allows him to have “transparency” through the passage of this law. He’s clean!
9:51 AM [Enorrste] But it isn’t enough. He needs more protection, even more transparency. He decides that he has to do just one more thing to guarantee this transparency. He passes the authority for revaluing the IQD directly to Shabbibi, the head of the CBI.
9:51 AM [Enorrste] Now this is interesting. That would be like Obama giving Bernanke the authority to revalue the dollar. Is that logical, or reasonable? I don’t think so. I’m sure Timothy Geitner wouldn’t think so either.
9:52 AM [Enorrste] When in the history of the world has a government given such great authority to a non-governmental entity?
9:52 AM [Enorrste] Oops. You got it. We did. Remember? 1933. Creation of the Federal Reserve?
9:52 AM [Enorrste] Now you will say, “Steve, you are getting into conspiracy theory now!”
9:52 AM [Enorrste] And I answer this question with a question: What is a conspiracy?
9:53 AM [Enorrste] A conspiracy is when a group of men (the big boys) get together and make a decision that affects the little guys, good or bad.
9:53 AM [Enorrste] So yes, I’m into conspiracy theory now.
9:53 AM [Enorrste] I submit that Maliki is following the direction that the US followed to the letter, and that in giving Shabbibi the keys to the RV he was doing exactly what Roosevelt did when he created the Federal Reserve. Of course in the case of Iraq the CBI came first, but without the keys what does it mean? Not much.
9:54 AM [Enorrste] Now, we have reasoned that Maliki has transferred the keys to Shabbibi in order to add to the “transparency” that will lead to his election. He has created a Code of Conduct law to present himself as above reproach. He has also given the authority to revalue the currency to the head of the CBI. He is clean!
9:54 AM [steven] how does that help maliki
9:54 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] he is still top dog when this goes down
9:54 AM [Enorrste] I think I just said how
9:54 AM [Jospar05] Seems like it would benefit Maliki more to RV himself.
9:54 AM [sammiePJ] i agree
9:55 AM [Enorrste] getting there jospar, patience, please
9:55 AM [Jospar05] k
9:55 AM [Enorrste] But wait, he still needs to get re-elected. And his prospects aren’t great given the current state of the economy and the depressed conditions of the people.
9:55 AM [babysnake] maliki has thr authority to do thid before he is elected?
9:55 AM [Enorrste] yes, baby
9:55 AM [Enorrste] He must have a solution. And he does have one. The solution is the RV itself.
9:56 AM [Enorrste] Based on this logic and reasoning we now can understand why he stated on December 13 of last year that he intended to RV the currency (“bring Iraq into the international financial community”) either late in 2009 or in 2010. We can also now see that it must occur before the election for it to have any affect on his election.
9:56 AM [Enorrste] So, whether there is a condition in the ECC to prohibit certain financial acts of corruption 30 days before the election or not we need not worry ourselves, yet.
9:56 AM [Enorrste] The only thing we need to ask ourselves is this: when does he have to do it, and what are the implications if he waits?
9:56 AM [sammiePJ] you just answered my quesion about the time frame
9:57 AM [Enorrste] This brings us to this simple conclusion. The RV is the key to Maliki’s re-election effort. It has always been the key. It was designed to be the key, probably in concert with the Obama administration and possibly with the connivance of the UN and IMF, who see their own goals also being met through the RV.
9:57 AM [sammiePJ] well he is runniing out of time to do all this
9:57 AM [Enorrste] Hillary Clinton came so close to letting the cat out of the bag this week when she gave a speech to potential investors in Iraq at Washington DC. She said the opportunity was so ripe that it is now “palpable”.
9:57 AM [crndog10] so, no later than feb 7. right?
9:57 AM [caddieman] Enorrste he also said there would be no uneployment by the end of the year..................whoops!
9:57 AM [babysnake] but he has to have the ecc aprovel first?
9:58 AM [Enorrste] he qualified that, caddieman
9:58 AM [Enorrste] done Dec 7 baby
9:58 AM [jtl] But if he gave it over to Shabibi, he dosnt have the control now, right?
9:58 AM [Enorrste] That word means “so close you could touch it”.
9:58 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] how did he qualify the no un-employment
9:58 AM [Enorrste] Palpable
9:58 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] is eat it
9:58 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] taste it
9:58 AM [Enorrste] Stop for a moment please
9:59 AM [govets] He is not finished, can we please let him finish? thanks.
9:59 AM [beau777] Thats some good research Enorrste
9:59 AM [Enorrste] jtl, he gave the "appearance of control" to Shabbibi
9:59 AM [Enorrste] "transparency", right?
9:59 AM [jtl] oh
9:59 AM [Snickers77] to preserve his image
9:59 AM [Enorrste] Allineed, it's a 5 year plan, period
9:59 AM [Soldier] <<<<<<<9:59 AM [Enorrste] I submit to you all this final statement:
10:00 AM [Enorrste] “The RV is the key to Maliki’s re-election. It will occur in the immediate future and ensure that election. Obama has played a key role in making this happen as have the IMF and the UN, and because of that we can be assured that it will happen. It will happen before the election in order to make the election of Maliki assured.”
10:00 AM [crndog10] thanks for all the info
10:00 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] Enorrste i agree, that was stated after he could not accomplish it by year end 2009
10:00 AM [Kevin H.] ty
10:00 AM [sammiePJ] well i hope so
10:00 AM [babysnake] Enorrste that was great of you to post this for us an do the research. 1 question how high is your IQ wow ,an what is your job title.
10:00 AM [mac lightning] AND...if not......................???????
10:00 AM [Enorrste] Well folks, the sun is up and I have a lot to do today.
10:00 AM [allIneedisonemillionusd] agree thanks for your reasoning and research
10:00 AM [Nance] that was great! Thank you for laying it out the way you did

MUHAMMAD POST - Dinar Vets 1/23/10 (Response to Kimwil2 Post Below)

Iraqi government itself is comprised of most politicians who don't speak English and whenever they use their office or home PC for information, it is either in Arabic, Kurdish (official in Kurdish regions), Assyrian or Armenian. Whenever foreign English speaking politicians visit Iraq, Iraqi politicians would then have to engage an interpreter to assist them. No interpreters in Iraq would have to check our blog site of what we always speculate right now right here. They wouldn't waste time to decipher what we might say all the time particularly in American lingo. And the intelligence of terrorist syndicates in Iraq are worse off. Do you think they would have an interpreter disguised as a registered blogger under a non-Muslim name somewhere with us in Adam's blog site to translate American lingo to their leaders? It is our own suspicion which creates an imaginative enemy amongst us all the time. Iraqi suicide bombers do not depend on our speculation and second hand news to murder innocent Iraqis in the streets. They got it from their own first hand news inside Iraq in their own languages before they reached us as second hand news. But if we email information to PM Maliki, he may need an interpreter to translate our message. By and large, the Iraqi government and their Iraqi terrorists are equally bad in English language. So, why worry so much that our propagtors might affect the revaluation plan of Iraq? Less than 1 percent of Iraqi population fully understand English language or speak and read English fluently. How to commercialized it in English to the majority of the Iraqi population? Infact, the Iraqis are also commercializing IQD more than we do. The interpreters don't do things without payment.

KIMWIL2 POST - Dinar Vets 1/23/10

I own dinar, but I'm afraid now. It seems like this 'investment' is too commercialized in comparision to the Kuwait dinar. I think we as a society of 'dinar holders' are making it almost impossible for Iraq to have to RV, they don't have to with all of our monetary support. I don't want to lose faith, but slowly but surely, I am. We get so many dates about a possible RV, where is this info coming from, why would we get a 'heads up', this is just me thinking out loud. I really need help from my 'dinar family' to keep the faith. I think this thing should be 'low keyed' and not broadcasted everywhere. I'm just venting because I read a post earlier that made perfect sense, stop talking about it so much, let it be our little secret (which is tough because we want our friends and families to share in the wealth as well),this is seriously a catch 22. No, I'm not trading my dinar back in, I am here for the ride, I just need realistic info, all news should not and will not be good news, so please stop coming down hard on people who ARE speaking from both sides of the story, I don't want to be blindsided, I want to see it coming, whether it be good or bad. And I recently did get in contact with a "forex" person, IMO, they are just as lost as we are. I will post my chat with him later. HELP!!!!!!!

PARLIAMENT POSTPONED ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET

Parliament Postponed Adoption of the Budget and the Possibility to Postpone Until After the Elections

Iraqi Council of Representatives has postponed adoption of the draft electoral code of conduct to the federal budget next week to continue talks between the political blocs in the way that amid expectations for approval to postpone adoption of the budget until after the elections.
And MP Abdul Amir Al-Ghazali on the «Supreme» in a statement to «life» on Friday that «legal voting behavior and deferred to the federal budget hearings next week because of objections from some parties who do not want to approve these projects despite the amendments made to the federal budget by prime minister, fearing employed in the electoral propaganda by powerful parties ».The deputy «Kurdistan Alliance» Faryad Raondzi in contact with the «life» that «there are many obstacles impeding the adoption of the draft electoral code of conduct, including the refusal of some parties to convert the current government to caretaker government by checks and paragraphs of the Electoral Code of Conduct which is rejected by some political blocs linked to the Government ».

Saturday, January 23, 2010

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PM MALIKI MEETS U.S. VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN

In the name of God the Merciful
The Republic of Iraq
Prime minister
Information Office of the Prime Minister
PRESS RELEASE
Saturday, 23/1/2010

Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki meets U.S. Vice President

Received the Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki in his official office today by Vice President Joseph Biden, also discussed the development of relations between the two countries and to discuss current developments in Iraq, and to activate efforts to extricate Iraq from Chapter VII, and the preparations for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.

He stressed that relations between Iraq and the United States has improved significantly and exceeded military cooperation, and we have developed a genuine desire in all areas and in the framework of the implementation of the Strategic Framework Agreement.

The Prime Minister said the Iraqi government has achieved many accomplishments in the political and security aspects, economic, and the transition from the stage of dictatorship to democracy need more time, effort, and the next elections will be the cornerstone of the completion of the political system, and we will do our best to place in a free and fair and transparent, to complement the successes achieved in the security and the political system and achieve the aspirations of the Iraqi people to develop economy and improve services.

He continued sovereignty: The application of the Justice and Accountability Law was in accordance with constitutional and legal mechanisms and included all the lists of candidates contesting the elections, was not targeted at hand without the other, as some claim, and who were dismissed by the Appeals Review, which was formed of seven judges and approved by the House of Representatives to consider the objections.

For his part, U.S. Vice-President: My current visit comes within the framework of the common desire to develop relations between the two countries and the mutual visits between the two sides and to confirm the further implementation of the Strategic Framework Agreement and the development of relations and to discuss reducing the number of U.S. troops by agreement between the two countries.

Mr Joseph Biden: I have not come to Iraq to hold any settlement, and President Obama and I strongly support the implementation of Article VII of the Constitution relating to not allowing the Baath Party

Dissolved for the exercise of its activity, and we are confident that democracy in Iraq has matured greatly and we look forward with you to conduct elections in an atmosphere of free and fair, because these elections are very important stage and will contribute to supporting the political process and democratic transition and turn the page dictatorship suffered by Iraq during the former regime.

The Vice-President, Mr. Prime Minister said the U.S. government would appeal the decision in the case of Blackwater in harmony with the Iraqi government's request, asserting that the United States continue its efforts to remove Iraq from Chapter VII, and move ahead with implementation of the conventions withdrawal of troops and the strategic framework, and the arrangements and preparations are underway to reduce the number of U.S. troops in the month of August next, at the same time praising the achievements of the Iraqi government and the latest oil contracts and the results of two rounds of oil licensing impressed the world.

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ANNONYMOUS POST 1/23/10 (in morning)

AND AS I SAID THIS NOT A CONFIRMATION OF AN RV, ONLY WHAT WAS THE MECHANISM THAT CAUSED THE BANKS TO CONTACT THE BRANCHES TO LOOK FOR A CHANGE TO THE IQD. SONNY MY GOOD FRIEND CONTACTED ME. SO HE ASKED IF I MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET MY FRIEND TO CHECK, SO HE DID. THE INFO CAME FROM ONE OF THE TOP 10 EXECS IN CHASE. I AM STREAMLINING THE INFO SOME. BOTTOMLINE WAS THAT CHASE'S HEADS UP CAME FROM THE TRADE BANK OF IRAQ. TBI TOLD CHASE CORPORATE THAT THEY EXPECTED THE IQD TO RV WITHIN 10-14 DAYS, THAT IT WAS EXPECTED BY EOM JAN AND NLT FEB 7TH.

NOW I DO NOT KNOW WHY THEY EXPECT IT FOR THOSE DATES, BUT IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THEY ARE AS CLOSE TO CBI AS ANYONE. SO THAT WAS THE INFO. IT IS THE ONLY SOURCE I HAVE AND USE FOR FACTS, AND AS CHASE SAID IT IS NOT A CONFIRMATION OF AN RV BUT ONLY A HEADS UP FOR THEM TO WATCH FOR IT WAS ENOUGH THOUGH FOR THEM TO TAKE SERIOUS, AND SO AS I SAID WAS THE REASON FOR THE SUDDEN CHANGE IN THEIR ATTITUDE AND CONTACTING BRANCHES.