CONCERNS OVER IRAQ 2010 BUDGET

http://www.aknews.com/en/aknews/2/97403/

Saturday, December 26th 2009 11:54 AM

Erbil, Dec. 26 (AKnews) - Chairman of the Finance Committee in the Iraqi parliament announced that the latter had conducted the second reading of the 2010 Iraqi budget in the presence of the country’s finance minister.

"Iraqi parliament, in the presence of Bayan Jabr al-Zubaidi, has resumed Thursday the second reading of the budget of 2010," MP Ismael Shukir the Independent National News Agency of Kurdistan (AKnews) on Saturday.

We decline external adds for the draft budget as recently the oil minister proposed to cut budget of some province in case the country’s general budget plunged, he added.

The deputy chairman of the Finance Committee said that if there was a determination to keep the 4th clause in the article 17 of the budget, we will then use the veto by the President of the Republic, he added, " the Kurdistan Regional Government should seek compensation from the Iraqi oil minister, because he prevented oil export from the Kurdistan region."

"After the end of the second reading, the Finance Committee have days ahead to review and modify the draft law, prepare it and submit it to the president of the parliament for third reading and vote", he added.

Regarding political parties seeking to postpone the ratification of the 2010 budget till after the elections of March 7, Shukir said ”this intent does not respect the Iraqi Constitution, because it requires the ratification of the Constitution in the same session during which it was discussed."

The Iraqi Parliament postponed the session till after January 3, 2010.

ae gs AKnews

EXPLANATION OF KUWAITI DINAR VALUE INCREASE

PHOENIX CHAT ON DINAR VETS

1. Saddam Hussain invaded Kuwait.

2. Saddam attempted to remove all of Kuwaitis dinar back to Iraq and replace it with Iraqi Dinar.

3. The whole world freaked out and the street value of the Kuwaiti dinar plunged in value to as low as .05 cents per dinar.

4. The U.S.A. sez....not no but **** NO!

5. The U.S.A. Goes in and kicks butt killing thousands of Iraqi troops as they flee.

6. Things stabilize...and the National bank of Kuwait opens its doors for business after months of disruption and announces that all Kuwaiti dinar will be accepted and honored at the pre invasion rate. ($3.64 or there about's)

7. People who had bought the Kuwaiti dinar for .05 - .10 cents walked into the banks that very day and exchanged / deposited for $3.64+

8. Shortly after this (3 months or so) Kuwait issued new notes calling the old pre war notes in.

9. The event was more or less scrubbed and information is sparse at best.

10. Some people became rich over night.

11. And they all lived happily ever after.

The end.

Phoenix

SFMEDIC CHAT - Dinar Speculator

SFMedic says to (22:48:29): CAN I HAVE THE FLOOR
SFMedic says to (22:48:38): OK I DIDN
SFMedic says to (22:48:56): OK I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO FINISH MY INFO EARLIER
SFMedic says to (22:49:34): ON THE 45 DAYS AFTER THE MARCH 7TH ELECTION THAT THE NEW PARLIAMENT TAKES OFFICE.
SFMedic says to (22:50:11): THAT IF THEY PUT OFF THE PASSING OF THE 2010 BUDGET SO THEY CAN HOLD MALIKI'S PARTY HOSTAGE FROM USING ANY PLUS'S TO HIS ADVANTAGE.
SFMedic says to (22:50:27): WHAT DOES MALIKI HAVE TO OFFER THE PEOPLE?
SFMedic says to (22:50:43): HE REALLY IS CORNERED.
SFMedic says to (22:51:18): THEY DON'T HAVE ANY STRING OF SUCCESSES TO PUT ON THEIR RESUME TO BE REELECTED.
SFMedic says to (22:51:37): BUT HE HAS ONE CHIP HE IS HOLDING THAT CAN MAKE THE PEOPLE FORGET EVERYTHING.
SFMedic says to (22:51:44): HE IS STILL HOLDING THE RV.
SFMedic says to (22:52:12): IT IS TRUE THAT EVEN THOUGH THE FUNDS FOR NEW JOBS AND INFRASTRUCTURE WILL NOT BE PASSED.
SFMedic says to (22:52:27): PEOPLE WILL HAVE NEW WEALTH TO HOLD THEM OFF TEMPORARILY
SFMedic says to (22:52:55): NOW MAYBE MALIKI SAW THIS COMING AND THAT IS WHY HE HELD ONTO THE RV.
SFMedic says to (22:53:14): YOU ALL NEED TO REMEMBER THIS.
SFMedic says to (22:53:33): PARLIAMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REVALUATION OF THE IQD.
SFMedic says to (22:53:36): NOTHING.
SFMedic says to (22:53:44): THE BUDGET HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
SFMedic says to (22:54:10): CBI>MALIKI>RV
SFMedic says to (22:54:18): THAT IS IT.
SFMedic says to (22:54:48): YOU NEED TO STOP ACTING LIKE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS PLAYING A BBALL GAME. I KNOW I HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE.
SFMedic says to (22:55:10): BUT THE BALL GOES TO THE RIGHT. 10 KIDS GO TO THE RIGHT. THE BALL GOES TO THE LEFT. 10 KIDS GO TO THE LEFT.
SFMedic says to (22:55:26): THERE ARE 3 POSSIBLE WINDOWS.
SFMedic says to (22:55:57): AND I AM TELLING YOU AND I KNOW THIS SUCKS. BUT THE RV WILL TAKE PLACE ON A MONDAY OR FRIDAY. I WOULD PUT 90% ON IT.
SFMedic says to (22:57:17): FIRST WINDOW AND I AM NOT SURE WHAT OUR INFO FROM CBI ON THE 10 DAYS WAS FROM THE 18TH OR NOT. ONLY THAT IT WASN'T AS SHE SAID HAPPENING BY THE 23RD AND SHE WAS RIGHT.
SFMedic says to (22:57:34): NOW THEY EXPECT IT AT CBI TO BE DONE BY THE 1ST.
SFMedic says to (22:58:08): WE SHALL SEE. NOW IF THE 10 DAYS IS FROM THE 18TH THEN THE 28TH OR THE 1ST ARE THE 1ST WINDOW.
SFMedic says to (22:58:39): NEXT WINDOW IS JUST A BEST GUESS ON WHEN IT WOULD BE TOO LATE FOR MALIKI TO USE IT TO HIS ADVANTAGE.
SFMedic says to (22:59:00): WHICH WOULD BE AROUND 30 DAYS PRIOR.
SFMedic says to (22:59:29): THAT WOULD BE THE LATEST.
SFMedic says to (22:59:57): NOW WE ARE ONLY 2 MONTHS AWARY ROUGHLY FROM ELECTIONS.
SFMedic says to (23:00:16): THEY NEED SOMETHING TO CAMPAIGN ON
SFMedic says to (23:00:46): THE THIRD WINDOW IS THE IMF
SFMedic says to (23:01:12): NOW BEFORE FUNDS CAN BE DISBURSED
SFMedic says to (23:01:40): ANY AGREEMENTS THAT ARE STIPULATED IN THE SOFT LOAN HAVE TO BE IMPLEMENTED 30 DAYS PRIOR/NOT 45 DAYS.
SFMedic says to (23:02:13): AND IT IS TO BE RELEASED TO THE MOF DURING THE 1ST QUARTER
SFMedic says to (23:03:00): I ONLY USED THE 31ST AS AN EXAMPLE
SFMedic says to (23:03:09): MARCH 31ST THE LAST DAY OF THE QUARTER
SFMedic says to (23:03:24): NOW THE FIRST PAYMENT TO THE IMF IS DUE ON MAY 1ST.

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SFMEDIC CHAT - Dinar Speculator

tinkerbelle says to (19:20:37): Here they go again...taking a siesta when they should be voting. What's a Maliki to do?

SFMEDIC CHAT: WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IS CONTROL MALIKI FROM GAINING ANY POPULARITY BY KEEPING THE GOI FROM MAKING ANY LAST MINUTES CHANGES THAT WILL ASSIST HIM IN THE ELECTION. THIS IS WHY HE SHOULD HAVE PULLED THE TRIGGER LONG AGO. THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE RV. IT IS USING FUNDS TO DEVELOP JOBS AND PROJECTS THAT WOULD GIVE THE PEOPLE SOME FUTURE. THEY WANT TO SHOW IT AS A FAILURE AND GIVE IT TO THE NEXT PARLIAMENT, WHICH MEANS NOT UNTIL 45 DAYS AFTER ELECTION MINIMUM.
NOW THAT WOULD STYMIE THE GOVT. NO FUNDS TO RUN IT. EVEN IN THE US WITH ALL THE POSTURING THE BUDGET GETS DONE. THIS IS STILL ABOUT CRIPPLING THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. THEY LOST THE BLOCS THROUGH THE ELECTION LAW, WHICH MEANS MOST OF THESE JOKERS WILL LOSE THEIR JOBS. WHICH IS NO BIG DEAL SINCE HALF NEVER SHOWED UP FOR THE SESSIONS ANYWAYS. THE IMF WAS ONLY A MINOR POINT, WHICH ONLY A FEW LAWMAKERS COMPLAINED OUT OF THE 275. THE DEAL IS ALREADY SIGNED AND DONE. THERE IS NO ELECTORAL VOTE FOR PARLIAMENT. I MEAN FOR PRIME MINISTER.

SFMEDIC CHAT - Dinar Speculator

Chat 12/26/09 5pm CST
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I think people where confused about what the ISO meant...IT IS IRRELEVANT. IT IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE NUMBER THAT IS ASSIGNED IRAQ FOR THE IQD ON FOREX. ACTUALLY THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS TO WATCH IF THIS DRAGS OUT PAST NEXT WEEK OR EVEN DURING THE WEEK. THE IMF GDDS. IT SAYS NEW NEXT TO IRAQ, BUT LOOK TO SEE IF NEXT TO IT IS POSTED (UPDATED), LIKE LIBYA. THEN THE NEXT PLACE IS OFAC. http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforce...raq/iraq.shtml

THERE IS LISTED NOW THE PDF FOR IRAQ TO REQUEST BEING REMOVED FROM THE OFAC LIST. IT HAS THE SANCTIONS AND WHY (WHICH I POSTED JUST A BIT AGO). ALSO I POSTED UNSC RESOLUTION 1483 WHICH IS THE REASON THEY ARE ON OFAC. OK ALL DONE.

CHAPTER VII Sanctions UNSC Explanation 1483
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Resolution 1483 (2003)
Adopted by the Security Council at its 4761st meeting, on 22 May 2003 The Security Council, Recalling all its previous relevant resolutions, Reaffirming the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Iraq, Reaffirming also the importance of the disarmament of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and of eventual confirmation of the disarmament of Iraq, Stressing the right of the Iraqi people freely to determine their own political future and control their own natural resources, welcoming the commitment of all parties concerned to support the creation of an environment in which they may do so as soon as possible, and expressing resolve that the day when Iraqis govern themselves must come quickly, Encouraging efforts by the people of Iraq to form a representative government based on the rule of law that affords equal rights and justice to all Iraqi citizens without regard to ethnicity, religion, or gender, and, in this connection, recalls resolution 1325 (2000) of 31 October 2000,
Welcoming the first steps of the Iraqi people in this regard, and noting in this connection the 15 April 2003 Nasiriyah statement and the 28 April 2003 Baghdad statement, Resolved that the United Nations should play a vital role in humanitarian relief, the reconstruction of Iraq, and the restoration and establishment of national and local institutions for representative governance, Noting the statement of 12 April 2003 by the Ministers of Finance and Central Bank Governors of the Group of Seven Industrialized Nations in which the members recognized the need for a multilateral effort to help rebuild and develop Iraq and for the need for assistance from the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank in these efforts, Welcoming also the resumption of humanitarian assistance and the continuing efforts of the Secretary-General and the specialized agencies to provide food and medicine to the people of Iraq, Welcoming the appointment by the Secretary-General of his Special Adviser on Iraq.

OFAC Sanctions Explanation
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Office of Foreign Assets Control, U.S. Department of the Treasury

IRAQ: WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE U.S. EMBARGO
An overview of the Executive Order 13350 and E.O.s 13315 and 13303

o INTRODUCTION - On August 2, 1990, upon Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait, President George H.W. Bush issued Executive Order No. 12722 declaring a national emergency with respect to Iraq. The International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601), and section 301 of title 3
of the U.S. Code, imposed economic sanctions, including a complete trade embargo, against Iraq. In keeping with United Nations Security Council Resolution 661 of August 6, 1990 and the United Nations Participation Act (22
U.S.C. 287c), the President also issued Executive Order 12724 on August 9, 1990, which imposed additional restrictions. Similar sanctions were imposed on Kuwait to ensure that no benefit from the United States flowed to the Government of Iraq in military-occupied Kuwait.

The Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC),following the United Nations Security Council's adoption of Resolution 1483 which substantially lifted the multilateral sanctions with respect to Iraq, issued a
General License, which was published in the Regulations as section 575.533. Transactions arising after May 23, 2003 are permitted with most state bodies, corporations or agencies of the former Iraqi regime (see the text of the amended general license below). However, property that was blocked as of May 23, 2003 remains blocked. Effective August 29, 2003, President George W. Bush issued Executive Order 13315, blocking property of the former Iraqi regime, its senior officials and their family members. On March 16, 2004, OFAC issued General
License No. 1 pursuant to Executive Order 13315, to allow transactions occurring after May 23, 2003 with most state bodies, corporations or agencies of the former Iraqi regime (see the text of this General License after the Executive Order below). However, assets of the parastatals that were blocked as of May 23, 2003, must remain blocked.

On July 30, 2004, the President issued a new Executive Order 13350 effectively lifting the sanctions against Iraq and expanding the authorities of E.O. 13315 with regard to the former Iraqi regime, including an Annex containing the names of parties blocked under this order. These names have been incorporated into OFAC's SDN list.

o ORDERLY RECONSTRUCTION OF IRAQ - On May 22, 2003, President Bush issued Executive Order 13303, protecting the Development Fund of Iraq and the marketing and sale of Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products to assure the orderly reconstruction of Iraq, the restoration of peace and security in the country, and the development of political, administrative, and economic institutions there. It provides immunity from attachment or other judicial process against the Fund or against Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products, and "interests therein, and proceeds, obligations, or any financial instruments of any nature whatsoever," arising from or related to the sale or marketing of Iraqi petroleum or petroleum products.

o EXPORTING TO IRAQ - Effective July 30, 2004, exports or reexports to Iraq must be licensed or otherwise authorized by the Department of Commerce. All OFAC licenses, issued prior to July 30, 2004, for the exportation or reexportation of goods, software or technology to Iraq remain valid until the expiration date stated in the license, or if no expiration date is provided in the license, until July 30, 2005.

o IRAQI CULTURAL PROPERTY - Section 575.533 effective May 23, 2003 prohibits transactions with respect to Iraqi cultural property or other items of archaeological, historical, cultural, rare scientific, and religious importance
illegally removed from Iraq since August 6, 1990. Questions concerning whether Iraqi cultural property are subject to this prohibition should be directed to: Cultural Property Office, U.S. Department of State, tel: 202-619-6612, fax: 202-260- 4893, or http://www.exchanges.state.gov/culprop.html

o FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS - All financial transactions with Iraq are allowed except for those involving individuals and entities appearing on OFAC's SDN list. This includes the opening of correspondent accounts for Iraqi financial
institutions.

o PENALTIES - Criminal penalties for violating the Iraqi Sanctions Regulations range up to 12 years in jail and $1,000,000 in fines. In addition, civil penalties of up to $325,000 per violation may be imposed administratively.

Criminal penalties for violating the Executive Order 13350, 13315 and 13303 range up to 10 years in prison, $500,000 in corporate fines and $250,000 in individual fines. In addition, civil penalties of up to $11,000 per violation may be imposed administratively.

If you have information regarding possible violations of any of the regulations, please call the Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control at 202/622-2430. Your call will be handled confidentially.

PHOENIX CHAT - Gold Rush

Maybe we will see the RV this weekend. That would be nice. I think by January 1st, so we have 6 days time for a major change world-wide, and the end of the year and start of the new is the time to do it! The IMF has a history for changing rates world-wide on January 1st. And, we had all of the major meetings all this past year, they made major agreements and it was all a great success, and NOTHING changed yet. So, me thinks we are about to see the whole world change on the one day where every bank in the whole world is closed...New Years Day. I do not think it has anything to do with the Iraqi elections in march. Yes, the election law WAS part of the hold up, BUT that is all done now, and I think people are just coming up with lame azz excuses. Ok...now I am going to bed!

SFMEDIC CHAT - Dinar Speculator

PART I
A friend of mine has a very good friend who is one of the top earners on wall street-he has friends in the IMF who have given him info. Also, I have another friend who has a good friend who owns several banks and is following the IQD. And, one of the largest traders/sellers of Dinar on the east coast-had always stated that he felt the RV was months away-just did a 180 on his time-line. Now none of this info will surprise you, but it seems to be another validation to what you have been thinking/saying. These guys are not on any forums, so its just more independent confirmation for you!

PART II
The wall street guy says that his friends in the IMF/World Bank-say expect RV within the next 30 days. The guy who owns several banks also believed it was going to happen Monday, then was told it could happen tonight, so is on edge. Ready-but-waiting like the rest of us. The big dinar trader on the east coast-told me 3 or 4 weeks ago. He felt the RV was at least 2 to 5+ months down the road. He felt there was still to much to do, and he doesn't belong to any anyone's forum. He only gets his information from the Middle East. However, the last few days something has caused him to change his thinking. because he now says it can/will happen anytime, and has taken the steps to be ready. He is still selling, but it takes him 10 to 20 days now to get Dinar.

PART III
The Banker is really not a banker. He is an owner of 10+ large banks, and these guys usually run with people high up on the food chain. Somehow he is getting info from either the Fed or the Treasury, but will not say, just that he has been told to look for the rate change Monday night, then yesterday Tuesday night. So I would gather from this that the US is expecting it to happen any day, and maybe that those who should know when, don't, and are just waiting like the rest of us. Also, it seems like the contacts at the IMF just know 30 days, nothing specific.

PART IV
DECEMBER 18TH... "postponed trip home until Jan 1st. Was coming Dec 23, but put off till Jan 1. Not confident Maliki will have the RV done next week! (WAS SPOT ON) NO RV AS THOUGHT. He wants to be able to take care of mom's business while he is here. He is most confident that Maliki will have made the RV announcement by the 1st.
Ramish does not have anything that can give a date. This is in Maliki's pocket. It is his pawn. She said it was out of CBI control already. Her best to you is within 10 days, hence my delaying my trip home till 1st. We are sure it will be done by then. If I do get a heads up, I will get it to you. I'll try to get with you while I'm home to do some golf.

SFMEDIC'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE INFORMATION SENT TO HIM ABOVE OVER A PERIOD OF SEVERAL DAYS:
PARTS I, II, and III were sent to me Monday night, and into Tuesday morning.

SUNDAY MARKS THE END OF 10 DAYS OF MOURNING

This Sunday Marks The End of 10 Days of Mourning in Observance of Ashoura
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34577667...deastn_africa/

updated 12:09 p.m. PT, Thurs., Dec . 24, 2009
BAGHDAD - Bombs hit Shiite pilgrims in Baghdad and a central Iraqi city Thursday, killing at least 27 people and wounding scores more, in the latest attack in the lead-up to Ashoura, the sect's most solemn annual rite.

The blasts raised fears of more bloodshed as hundreds of thousands of Shiites head to the holy city of Karbala in central Iraq for ceremonies Sunday to mark the climax of the religious observance. Ashoura's 10 days of mourning are in remembrance of the killing of the Prophet Muhammad's grandson, Imam Hussein, in a 680 A.D. battle that sealed the split between Shiites and Sunnis. Authorities said twin bombs killed at least 13 people and injured 74 others in the central Iraqi town of Hillah, the capital of Babil province, which is located about 60 miles south of Baghdad. The explosions hit a busy bus terminal where many Shiite pilgrims had gathered.

Abandoned shoes lay in puddles of blood as shell-shocked survivors sat in front of damaged storefronts. "As people gathered here, a powerful blast took place," said witness Ali Hussein. "A bomb exploded there and a car bomb exploded here."
Hours later, a bomb targeting a funeral in Baghdad killed nine and wounded 33 in a predominantly Shiite neighborhood, police and hospital officials said. The officials spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to speak to media.
It was unclear if the attackers thought they were targeting an Ashoura procession, when devout Shiites beat themselves with swords and other instruments to show their devotion and mourning for Imam Hussein.
Also in Baghdad, another bomb killed five Shiite pilgrims and wounded 18 others on Pilgrims turn out en masseAlthough Ashoura is essentially an expression of religious grief, it has also become a demonstration of power by Iraq's majority Shiites. Observance of the holy day was forbidden by former dictator Saddam Hussein's Sunni-led regime. After he was ousted and a Shiite-led government came to power, pilgrims turned out en masse to mark the occasion, defying the threat of insurgent attacks.
People from around southern Iraq, which is overwhelmingly Shiite, make up the bulk of pilgrims traveling to Karbala. In Karbala itself, police said another explosion injured eight pilgrims about a mile from the al-Hussein holy shrine.
In Hillah, the twin bombs went off 15 minutes apart, with the second explosion catching emergency workers and civilians responding to the first blast, said police Maj. Muthana Khalid.
Among the dead in Hillah was provincial councilman and doctor Nima Jassim al-Bakri. He was driving to the attack site and was shot after failing to stop at a checkpoint, causing a guard to mistake him for an attacker, Khalid said.
Thursday's explosions were not as deadly as in previous years. But clerics from both sides of the divide denounced the insurgents' attempts to re-ignite the sectarian hatred that shook the country two years ago.
"We expect al-Qaida will exploit the religious occasion of Ashoura and try to ignite the sectarian tensions," said Sheik Salah al-Obaidi, the spokesman of the conservative Shiite Sadr movement, a political party led by an anti-American cleric. He said more bombings were expected. Al-Qaida in Iraq is predominantly Sunni.

Sectarian divisions
Sheik Hameed Maroof al-Obaidi, a Sunni imam in northern Baghdad, said sectarianism should be dismissed and called on Muslims to "coexist even with Jews and Christians because our prophet, Muhammad, did that." He asked for mercy for the victims and families. Violence in Iraq has dramatically in the past two years, but insurgents still regularly target security forces and civilians. Many fear the U.S. military withdrawal will leave a security vacuum even though Iraqi authorities have assured citizens they are capable of safeguarding the country.

Karbala police spokesman Maj. Alaa Abbas said 25,000 additional security forces had been sent to the city, along with specialized vehicles and police dogs to detect explosives. Helicopters are also keeping watch from the skies. Thursday's attacks underscored extremists' efforts to exploit security gaps, targeting relatively unprotected pilgrims traveling to Karbala even as authorities fortified the area in and around the city.
"The terrorists are using the most ugly ways to kill innocents and hit national unity," Abbas said.

I dunno, maybe we could see the RV after this time of mourning has ended.

BALK POST

5:03 PM [BALK] I have been on this site on and off for past several weeks-seems that everyone is a little down I got info today
5:03 PM [BALK] From someone in DC with contacts in Iraq
5:03 PM [BALK] I wont discuss who-but for what it is worth
5:04 PM [BALK] he tells me that Treasury Dept is behind the delay
5:04 PM [BALK] And that they wont let RV happen till after election is firm
5:04 PM [danimal] why?
5:04 PM [BALK] Said Treasury wanted to make sure right gov was firm
5:04 PM [BALK] That is all I know
5:05 PM [danimal] hmmm ok thanks
5:05 PM [BALK] But it made me feel more confident that it will happen
5:05 PM [BALK] welcome-seems we are all in this together
5:05 PM [danimal] so after the elections? in march or what?
5:06 PM [BALK] Thats all he said after the election happens

DINAR TRADE NOT SHUT DOWN FROM TAKING ORDERS

You still have to do it online as before. Even though Ali is in Iraq, the site is still open and your order date will lock your price in.

Please see link: http://www.dinartrade.com/order.php

Quote: Due to the Christmas holidays all orders placed after Wednesday 12/23/09 2:30 PM PST will be shipped on Monday 12/28/09 for delivery Tuesday 12/29/09. All orders placed online will have their price locked in.

http://www.nenosplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3499

PHOENIX CHAT - Gold Rush

TRUTHSEEKER POST FOLLOWED BY PHOENIX CHAT LOG:

THURSDAY AFTERNOON CHAT WITH PHOENIX -- Nothing to do with Dinar but still important nonetheless -- he has shared some info with us that could be very important for now and down the road --- I decided to post in the forum for the ease of everyone viewing and to also alert you to the article that he posted and encourages us to read -- I will not leave this posted for very long and cannot even promise that Phoenix will not come and delete so read and copy any thing you feel you would want to reference later -- TRUTHSEEKER

The beginning Phoenix comes on to just say hello - he is going to take Lake to look at their new house -- he then states that he had hopes of being in the new house before now -- and so then the chat continues -- sorry I did not get the first couple of lines --

PHOENIX CHAT LOG:
[14:00] Phoenix3333: but man proposes....God disposes
[14:00] TRUTH: I was hoping for you and me lol
[14:00] TRUTH: and everyone
[14:00] CASHINN: WORD
[14:00] TRUTH: it is what it is
[14:00] Phoenix3333: everything happens for a reson
[14:00] TRUTH: go with the flow
[14:00] CASHINN: His purpose
[14:01] TRUTH: do not resist or be "attached" to any outcome
[14:01] Phoenix3333: and when the Rv happenens it will not be one day early or one day late
[14:01] TRUTH: agree
[14:01] Phoenix3333: and the ratee will not be one penny too high or one penny too low
[14:01] CASHINN: Even when it looks too late......its not
[14:01] Phoenix3333: and all will be as it should
[14:01] Phoenix3333: it Gods time in Gods way
[14:01] TRUTH: we are all having experiences and learning - being fined tuned in areas of weaknesses to be more prepared for the blessing
[14:02] Phoenix3333: so true truth
[14:02] Phoenix3333: this has been a huge test
[14:02] TRUTH: our hearts are being tempered at least mine has been --
[14:02] Phoenix3333: and we are all in the final exam now
[14:02] Phoenix3333: no peeking
[14:02] CASHINN: The forum name is correct cause we are being refined during the Gold Rush so we have a place After the Gold Rush
[14:03] Phoenix3333: everyone is being fine tuned
[14:03] Phoenix3333: and sometimes it hurts
[14:03] Phoenix3333: onch
[14:03] TRUTH: I have been sorely tested in my weakest area so I can become stronger for what is about to happen
[14:03] Meebo Message: guest5706440 is now known as sandman
[14:03] Phoenix3333: agree truth as have I
[14:04] TRUTH: it has been very painful and days of many tears
[14:04] Phoenix3333: question
[14:04] TRUTH: and I am understanding more now
[14:04] TRUTH: sure
[14:04] Phoenix3333: does anyone know why a cell phone would start setting off door alarms in stores?
[14:05] TRUTH: no clue for me but it is all on frequency
[14:05] Phoenix3333: every door I walk through with my cell phone now sets of the alarm
[14:05] TRUTH: so I see how it could happen
[14:05] Phoenix3333: this has never happened before this am
[14:05] TRUTH: hummmm?
[14:05] CASHINN: hmm
[14:05] Phoenix3333: if i turn it off it still does it
[14:06] Phoenix3333: but if I remove the battery it does not
[14:06] CASHINN: interesting
[14:06] TRUTH: well again a cell phone turned off still can be harmful to the body
[14:06] Phoenix3333: just stARTED THIS TODAY
[14:06] Phoenix3333: NEVER BEFORE HAS THIS HAPPENED
[14:06] TRUTH: frequency and vibration not that I am claiming to be so smart lol
[14:07] Phoenix3333: SAME PHONE SAME STORES NOTHING HAS CHANGED
[14:07] TRUTH: there is a logical explanation I feel sure
[14:07] Phoenix3333: sorry cap lock
[14:07] CASHINN: Blame it on the Health Care Bill
[14:07] CASHINN: lol
[14:07] TRUTH: now the stores could have upped their power
[14:07] Phoenix3333: lol
[14:07] TRUTH: their sensors?
[14:07] Phoenix3333: no one else seemed to have a problem
[14:08] TRUTH: hummm?
[14:08] TRUTH: interesting
[14:08] TRUTH: you are special
[14:08] Phoenix3333: everyone else walks right through talking
[14:08] TRUTH: you have that special energy lol
[14:08] Phoenix3333: or with thier phones in their hands no problem
[14:08] Phoenix3333: going in and going out my phone sets off all of the door alarms
[14:09] TRUTH: wow
[14:09] TRUTH: time for a new phone ?
[14:09] Phoenix3333: it is new
[14:09] Phoenix3333: have had it for 3 months
[14:10] Phoenix3333: or so
[14:10] Phoenix3333: nice one
[14:10] TRUTH: hummm? You are being a real tough case today lol
[14:10] Phoenix3333: same as Lakes...and hers does not do it
[14:11] Phoenix3333: I may have some one tracking my movement?
[14:11] TRUTH: that is possible OPhopenix - I have seen videos of that happening
[14:11] Phoenix3333: I know this can be done and phones can send out a "hot tracker" on comand
[14:11] TRUTH: yes
[14:12] Phoenix3333: most phones just get a ping every 15 min or so
[14:12] Phoenix3333: but they can be made to go active/ hot
[14:12] TRUTH: yes
[14:12] TRUTH: can you debug your phone?
[14:13] Phoenix3333: the question is....if this is the case then who would be doing this and why
[14:13] Phoenix3333: the only way to get around this is to keep the battery out
[14:13] Phoenix3333: and only put the battery in to use it
[14:14] TRUTH: lot of trouble but definitely worth it for protection
[14:14] TRUTH: thing is ----- how was it ever activated or set up to begin with?
[14:15] Phoenix3333: so if my phone is putting out a signal for tracking and it just started to day....maybe it is santa?
[14:15] Phoenix3333: wanting to be sure to be able to find me?
[14:15] TRUTH: the RV Santa I hope
[14:16] Phoenix3333: TS it is set up already...all phones are
[14:16] Phoenix3333: and with the patriot act the government can do this at will
[14:17] Phoenix3333: they can active them to listen to you even when the phone is turned off
[14:17] Phoenix3333: they can also activate the camera on the phone to get a streaming video feed
[14:17] Phoenix3333: that can also be done with the phone turned off
[14:17] TRUTH: but why you and not Lake --
[14:18] Phoenix3333: welcome to 1983
[14:18] Phoenix3333: lol
[14:18] Phoenix3333: 1984
[14:18] Phoenix3333: also
[14:18] Phoenix3333: you know that camera on your screen?
[14:19] Phoenix3333: same thing
[14:19] TRUTH: yes
[14:19] Phoenix3333: the can get streaming video feed off of you system
[14:19] Phoenix3333: video
[14:19] TRUTH: right and computers - TV converter box?
[14:19] Phoenix3333: lol
[14:19] Phoenix3333: yes the box also
[14:20] Phoenix3333: we are 100% wired
[14:20] TRUTH: yes
[14:20] Phoenix3333: and now....with the cell phone cams and feeds
[14:20] Phoenix3333: everyone is watched all the time everywhere
[14:20] Phoenix3333: if needed
[14:20] TRUTH: right
[14:20] Phoenix3333: so be good!
[14:20] Boom: Phx put your cell next to the radio and see if it humms
[14:21] Phoenix3333: I will try that later boom
[14:21] Phoenix3333: no biggie
[14:21] lmoore551: wrap your phone in foil!!!!????
[14:22] Phoenix3333: I just have to make sure i do not take my phone into any stores
[14:22] Phoenix3333: thats all
[14:22] TRUTH: get those thigs that block it Phoenix
[14:22] TRUTH: things
[14:22] Phoenix3333: I do not care if I am being tracked
[14:22] homie: smash it and get another
[14:22] Phoenix3333: lol
[14:22] Phoenix3333: no way
[14:22] TRUTH: you know - to block the scanning of credit cards etc
[14:22] Phoenix3333: they can do the same to any phone at will
[14:23] Phoenix3333: also...you know that because GM was bailed out by the government
[14:23] homie: just makes them work for it
[14:23] Phoenix3333: the US government now has access and control of all GNM cars and trucks
[14:24] TRUTH: right
[14:24] Phoenix3333: and the GM "On Star" system belongs to the federal government
[14:24] Phoenix3333: so they can listen in and track any GM car or truck they chose to
[14:24] Phoenix3333: just so ya know
[14:24] capt-ron: that sucks now they will know all my secret fishing spots
[14:25] lmoore551: jesse ventura said he disables his on star as soon as he buys a new car
[14:25] Phoenix3333: what ever you say in a GM anywhere you go can be listened to and it is all recorded 24/7
[14:25] Phoenix3333: just so ya know...
[14:25] Phoenix3333: knowledge is power
[14:26] woodman: all i can say is Merry Christmas Phoenix and Truth
[14:26] TRUTH: thank you Woodman
[14:26] Phoenix3333: thanks
[14:26] homie: Phx, does sirus satellite work the same way??
[14:26] Phoenix3333: merry christmas to you also!
[14:26] Phoenix3333: do not be fearful of any of this
[14:27] TRUTH: just be aware and pay attention to your surroundings and your actions and your words
[14:27] Phoenix3333: is it not true that all we do even in darkness and all that is siad even under our breath is seen and heard by God himself?
[14:27] Phoenix3333: so fear no man..
[14:27] Phoenix3333: but fear God
14:28] Phoenix3333: nothing to hide...
[14:28] Phoenix3333: transparent...open...honest
[14:28] woodman: Phoenix i have heard this about on star before that they can turn it on or off at will and you don't have to do any thing
[14:28] TRUTH: the power of your intentions - the heart behind your actions and words
[14:28] Phoenix3333: there is nowhere to hide....and no way to hide if one wanted to
[14:29] Phoenix3333: so we may see and hear some freaky things
[14:29] Phoenix3333: but do not be afraid
[14:29] Phoenix3333: fear no man
[14:29] nventr: A lead shield would probably eliminate this.....a bit cumbersome.
[14:29] Phoenix3333: for the watchers are watched
[14:30] Phoenix3333: tin foil hat
[14:30] Phoenix3333: lol
[14:30] Phoenix3333: ok I have to get ready to roll
[14:30] Phoenix3333: Lake wants to go see our new house
[14:30] Phoenix3333: bbl
[14:30] nventr: tin foil is a reasonable option.
[14:31] Phoenix3333: everyone be well!
[14:31] Phoenix3333: and merry christmas to all!
[14:31] TRUTH: Tell Lake Hello and Merry Christmas for me
[14:31] homie: merry christmas Phx
[14:31] TRUTH: Have a joyous afternoon Phx
[14:31] TRUTH: thanks for the visit
[14:31] Phoenix3333: ]"nventr: tin foil is a reasonable option." Bad ideA
[14:32] Phoenix3333: LOOK IN THE FORUM i POSTED A STUDY BY mit ON TIN FOIL HATS
[14:32] nventr: Will do
[14:32] TRUTH: k
[14:32] Phoenix3333: they think the government put that out
[14:33] Phoenix3333: no joke because it makes the signals STRONGER!
[14:33] Phoenix3333: lol
[14:33] Phoenix3333: no joke

SFMEDIC CHAT - Dinar Speculator

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL!

butterfly: hopin the rv will be in their stockings

PROBABLY NOT YOUR STOCKING BUT POSSIBLY A PRE NEW YEARS EVE PRESENT. WELL YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. NEWS IS THIS AND PLEASE TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. I CAN'T CONFIRM IT ONLY CUZ I WOULDN'T EVEN TRY. BUT BEEN TOLD THAT A CERTAIN TRADER IS IN IRAQ AGAIN AND IT IS TO OPEN A BANK AS IN REALLY OPENING IT. FOR WHAT THIS TRADER SUPPOSEDLY TOLD A MUTUAL FRIEND THE SAME THING THAT RAMISH SENT IN HER EMAIL FROM IRAQ. NOW FIRST THING IS THIS GUY IN IRAQ AGAIN OR IS IT BS? IF THAT IS TRUE. THEN WHY IS HE IRAQ AND NOT HERE WITH HIS FAMILY SINCE HE IS A CHRISTIAN AS HE SAID HE IS. JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. ALSO FOUND OUT THAT OBAMA HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTTA TO DO WITH THE RV NOT HAPPENING. IT WAS SUPPOSEDLY ONE OF HIS (MALIKI) ADVISORS THAT TOLD HIM TO PUT IT OFF AND IT WILL STIR THE PEOPLE A BIT MORE AND THEN GIVE IT TO THEM. YET, IT COST ANOTHER 20 LIVES YESTERDAY AND 40 INJURED INCLUDING A TOP GENERAL. SO IS IT REALLY WORTH IT? THAT IS ALMOST 300 KILLED IN 3 BOMBINGS. WANT TO SEE IF ANYONE IS LEAKING OUT RV INTEL. HOW ABOUT JUST RELEASING IT AND THEN NOBODY HAS TO WORRY? WELL THAT IS ALL. THANKS SEE YOU ALL LATER.

WRIGHTTWICE POST - Dinar Vets

"I agree for the most part with xxxxxx on his assessment of the facts, rumors, "intel" and his SPECULATION (thanks for the definition xxxxxxxx!!...hope some "bashers" will read that) of the possible RV date.

Who am I? Just a good ole boy from Alabama trying to put some of the pieces of this dinar puzzle together. Why.....for fun!!! Not to become a "big dog" on these threads and not because I think I have the answer. Just for fun until the day the RV hits. Yes, I have invested also and so I am hoping for a good return.

I agree with xxxxxx that if the dinar RV is truly going to be announced in the near future it would be done at a time that benefits those who are currently in office and running for re-election. Would a politician actually use his current power in such a way as to try to create even more future power for himself? hmmmmm.

My SPECULATION is a possible RV happening between January 18, 2010 and the middle of February 2010. I say the middle of February for the same mindset as xxxxxx (that it would benefit M........re-election). And I say the 18th of January 2010 as the earliest for the following reason.

This is where I am asking for help, confirmation, debunking, etc from others with more insight than I have. I have read on various dinar forum sites that the IQD was "set" at an exchange rate of 1170:1 (IQD:USD) with the CBI on January 18, 2009 for a period of "one year". After which it could be revalued. This new value may or may not be set for another predetermined period of time.

I have tried to find evidence of this information but have not been able to track down information to either support or debunk this. And I am wondering who is actually in control of the RV. What I have been able to do is monitor the currency exchange sites for the past few months. This is what I have seen: While currency exchange sites such as fxtop and mataf have slightly fluctuated during this time, the CBI exchange rate has remained a steady 1170:1 IQD:USD without any variation. This is the one constant factor in the midst of many rumors that are flying around.

This is why I pick January 18, 2010 as the earliest date for the RV to occur. Can anyone add to this information/misinformation in an informative (and preferably friendly) manner???

Disclaimer: I reserve the right to amend my speculation based on new information I receive, such as an RV that happens sooner!!!!!! At which time I will gladly put both of my feet in my mouth (crusty toes and all), sit in a wheelchair and roll myself to the nearest participating bank.

As a side note, I will also be passing through Dubai in a few days on my way to Iraq. I hope to be able to speak with some more common, everyday Iraqi citizens to see what their mindset is on the entire situation. I don't expect any secret squirrel intel, rather just a first-hand impression of the pulse of the common people. If I come across anything interesting I will gladly post it if anybody is interested. I will be in Iraq for approximately one year ....or until the RV hits....whichever comes first. (I told my family I plan on being home soon)"

SFMEDIC CHAT - Dinar Speculator

SFMEDIC CHAT:
NOW WHEN I EXPLAINED THE IMF I SAID IT WAS A MECHANISM FOR AN RV. I DID NOT SAY IT WAS THE ONLY ONE OR THE ACTUAL ONE THAT WOULD CREATE THE RV. I ALSO SAID NOT TO GET HUNG UP ON ANY DATES SINCE I WAS USING GENERALITIES. I ONLY SAID THAT IF USING THE EXTREME FOR A DATE OF THE 31ST OF MARCH FOR DISBURSEMENT OF THE IMF SOFT LOAN FUNDS, THEN COUNT BACK 45 DAYS. THE FUNDS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE RELEASED IN THE 1ST QTR. QTR 3 MONTHS RIGHT... JAN FEB MAR... BUT I SAID THERE ARE OTHER MECHANISMS
ONE IS POLITICAL. MALIKI AND WHEN IS IT BENEFICIAL FOR HIM TO RELEASE IT. ONLY HE AND HIS ADVISERS KNOW. THE IMF ONLY HAS A GUESS.

MAILMAN17 CHAT:
OK SIT ON YOUR HANDS. FIRST OFF...THE LOAN.... IMF STIPS SAY THEY MUST HAVE A TRADABLE CURRENCY 45 DAYS BEFORE MAR 31ST. OK..WE GOT THAT RIGHT...THERE'S WINDOW ONE. IT IS A SOFT LOAN FOR 5.5 BN USD DIVIDED INTO TWO DISBURSEMENTS. THAT MEANS THEY MUST RV THEIR CURRENCY BETWEEN NOW AND 45 DAYS PRIOR TO MAR 31ST. ONE FOR 2010 AND ONE FOR 2011. FIRST PAYMENT ON THE LOAN IS MAY 1.

WINDOW 2... IS THE ELECTION AND WHAT MALIKI PLANS ON DOING PRIOR TO THAT. WILL HE ANNOUNCE THE RV ON ELECTION DAY?...NO FRIGGIN WAY! IT WILL DO NO GOOD FOR HIM, AND IT HAS TO BE LASTING. HE MUST HAVE IMO AT LEAST 2 MONTHS FOR THE RV TO BE IN PLACE AND CURRENT ENOUGH TO KEEP THE MOMENTUM FOR THE PEOPLE AND PARLIAMENT TO SEE THE RAMIFICATIONS. REMEMBER...PARLIAMENT AND ESPECIALLY THE COUNCIL DECIDES WHETHER HE KEEPS HIS JOB OR NOT.

SFMEDIC CHAT:
HE MEANS WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY. JUST LIKE THE STRIKE ZONE. ONE WAS THE THE HIGHER THE RISK THE LONGER IT TAKES TO COME INTO FRUITION, AND THIS WAS A BIG RISK INVESTMENT, BUT THE POSSIBILITIES ON THE RETURNS ARE ENDLESS. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE CONSENSUS BY ECONOMISTS AT THE CORPORATE BANKS THINK THE RATE WILL BE, IT IS THE SAME AS THE EURO. THEY BELIEVE THAT RATE IS THE MOST SENSIBLE, WHICH IS???????????????????????????1.49. YOU WILL NEVER SEE 3.27. THAT IS A PIPE DREAM.

SFMEDIC CHAT - Dinar Speculator

PERSONALLY I DON'T SEE WHY A PERSON IS FRUSTRATED. FRUSTRATION TO ME COMES FROM NOT UNDERSTANDING INVESTING. NOW THEY COME HERE AND JOIN. I HAVE ONLY BEEN DISAPPOINTED IN ONE ASPECT OF THE INVESTMENT. I HAVE SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS GETTING LESSONS OVER THE PHONE GETTING ECO LESSONS. I HAVE STUDIED SO MUCH ON ECONOMICS ON THE WEB. IT WAS I HAD SORT OF A DREAM OR GOAL. THAT IF I COULD GET AS CLOSE TO THE CENTRAL BANK FOR INFORMATION. THAT WOULD BE THE KEY
THAT IT WOULD GIVE ME A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHEN OR WHY IT WILL RV. IT WAS A FLOP.

I HAVE DAILY CONTACT WITH CORPORATE EXECS WHO CAN CALL THE CENTRAL BANK OF KUWAIT OR EUROPE
OR THE TREASURY OR FAMCB, AND NOTHING IS A HELP. NOW ACTUALLY SHE REALLY, EVEN THOUGH SIMPLE IN THE EXPLANATION, WAS PROBABLY THE MOST REASONABLE AND ACCURATE. SHE AND HER HUSBAND PUT OFF FOR 9 DAYS COMING HOME TO THE STATES BECAUSE OF THE INFO SHE HAD. FOR AWHILE SHE HAD STOPPED CONTACTING US. I HAD FOUND OUT THE 3.27 RATE WAS PUT OUT TO CATCH LEAKS, AND GOT WORD TO HER THAT CBI WAS TRYING TO CATCH THOSE WHO WERE GIVING OUT INFO. IT IS TREASON TO GIVE OUT THAT INFO IF YOU ARE CAUGHT. NOW CBI DOES NOT HAVE THE RATE OR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. SO SHE WAS ONLY PASSING ON THE WATER COOLER INFO. BECAUSE THEIR JOB WITH RESPECT TO THE RV IS OVER, SHABIBI HAS SIGNED AND RELEASED IT TO THE GOI. YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO AUGUST INTERVIEW WITH SHABIBI
WHEN HE SAID ONCE IT LEAVES CBI IT IS AT THE MERCY OF THE POWERS THAT BE. IF SHABIBI WAS THE ONE WHO WAS HANDLING IT. I BELEIVE IT WOULD BE DONE. HE HAS NO POLITICAL REASON TO PLAY WITH IT.

UNLIKE MALIKI, THIS COULD BE WORSE. NOW WE HAVE THE MINISTRIES AND MALIKI INVOLVED. MALIKI IS THE GOI. IT IS THE PRIME MINISTER THAT WIELDS THE POWER OF THE GOVT, NOT THE PRESIDENT. THE PRESIDENT AND VP'S ARE MORE THE RUBBER STAMP GUYS. THEY HAVE VERY LIMITED POWERS. UNLIKE MALIKI WHO HAS THE MOST POWER IN THE GOI. THIS IS NOT UNLIKE THE PM FOR THE UK AND THE QUEEN. THE QUEEN IS THE FIGURE HEAD, BUT THE PM IS THE GOVT. I KNOW THAT THIS IS REPETITIVE AND A PAIN IN THE BUTT, BUT I BELIEVE THE RATE WILL ONLY BE RELEASED ON A MONDAY OR FRIDAY. BUT THIS PUTS THINGS IN A BETTER PERSPECTIVE OTHERWISE THIS IS THE YOUTH BASKETBALL SCENARIO. YOU EVER WATCH 3/4 GRADERS PLAY BBALL? THE BALL GOES TO THE RIGHT. 10 KIDS RUN TO THE RIGHT. THE BALL GOES TO THE LEFT, 10 KIDS RUN TO THE LEFT. IT IS NOT JUST A TRADITION, IT IS WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. FRIDAYS ARE GOOD SO THAT VENDORS CAN ADJUST PRICES. MONDAY IS GOOD ESPECIALLY IF THIS IS GOING INTERNATIONAL
BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT GLOBALLY THIS WILL HAVE.

ONE THING THAT HAS ANNOYED ME ALOT IN THE FORUMS IS THE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE TAXES. IN GENERAL AND IT IS A FACT THAT TAXES HAVE ACTUALLY LOWERED. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER IT WAS GB JR THAT LOWERED THE FED TAX SO MORE WOULD BE IN THE PAYCHECKS. WE IN GENERAL FOR ALL THE PUBLIC SPENDING THERE IS PAY ENOUGH. ONE BIG THING IS THERE ARE ALLOT OF SLACKERS WHO DO NOTHING BUT COLLECT FOOD STAMPS AND LIVE OFF THE GOVT.

I REMEMBER SEVERAL YEARS BACK THE STATE OF WISC PUT A CAP ON BENEFITS FOR SOCIAL SERVICES BECAUSE OF ONE WOMAN. SHE HAD STARTED WELFARE WITH LIKE 3 KIDS, AND NOW HAS 7. THE STATE FELT THAT SHE COULD HAVE SHOWN SOME RESPONSIBILITY IF SHE COULDN'T SUPPORT 3 WHY DID SHE HAVE 7?

Med can the Prez. or the senate push Mailiki to rv?... NO HE CAN'T REALLY DO IT LEGALLY. THIS IS NOT OUR COUNTRY.

Can they push him in a manner similar to the push to get the election law done?... WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO FORCE THEM. NOT SURE REALLY HOW MUCH OBAMA CARES OR HAS BEEN BRIEFED. BUT ACCORDING TO THE TREASURY THIS IS A BIG DEAL TO THE U.S. BUT THAT BEING SAID WHY HAVEN'T WE PUT PRESSURE ON THEM? THIS GROUP OF INVESTORS WILL PAY MORE TAXES THAN ALL THE OTHER THE OTHER TAXPAYERS COMBINED. AND WE ARE ONLY ABOUT 500,000 COMPARED TO THE 200 MILLION OTHER NORMAL TAXPAYERS.

OK FIRST THE INCREASED CAPITAL GAINS OBAMA WAS LOOKING FOR WAS NOT PASSED, SO SQUELCH THAT RUMOR. REMEMBER ALOT OF CONGRESSMAN AND SENATORS HAVE IQD. NOW HAS OUR GOVT DONE SOME CROOKED THINGS? TAXED US AT TIMES UNFAIRLY... AND THEN TURNED THEIR BACKS ON THE VETERAN FOR MANY YEARS? THEY HAVE HAD COVERUPS, YET ODDLY ENOUGH IT REALLY ISN'T MANY THAT DO THIS. BUT WHEN IT IS DONE, IT IS USUALLY BIG. I KNOW MY CONGRESSMAN VERY WELL, AND I CAN TELL YOU HE IS A VERY GOOD GUY. NOW I WAS CAUGHT OFF GUARD BY NOW COST OF LIVING FOR ME ON ANY OF MY PENSIONS
THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR I HAVE NEVER GOTTEN A PAY RAISE EVER. I BLAME TWO WORTHLESS STIMULUS PACKAGES FOR THIS. THE BAILOUT MONEY FOR THE BANKS WAS USELESS. AND WHO WAS THE ONE TO PUT PEOPLE BACK TO WORK?

AN IRAQI ECONOMIST FROM BAGHDAD SAID CBI LOSES MONEY EVERY AUCTION KEEPING THE DIRTY FLOAT, AND IN FACT I CAN TELL WHY THEY LOSE AND HAVE LOST BILLIONS. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY? IF YOU KNOW THAT YOUR CURRENCY IS UNDERVALUED AND PURPOSELY HOLD IT DOWN, BUT AUCTION OFF 6 BILLION IN IQD YOU HAVE JUST GAVE A FUTURE GIFT OF BILLIONS TO SOMEONE JUST BECAUSE MALIKI HAS NOT DECIDED TO PULL THE TRIGGER. THEY HAVE TO COVER IT.