Friday, January 15, 2010
SFMEDIC CHAT - Dinar Vets 1/15/10 @ 12:06pm EST
kadrock50 says to (12:06:55):
I think a lot of it is 'smoke and mirrors' to purposely throw the public off, what do you guys think?
dinarham says to (12:06:59):
Maybe one of their last ducks is the 1 year 1170 benchmark
Polarbear says to (12:07:06):
the US is going to pull out at some time so they
****** says to (12:07:11):
WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THE U.S. LEVERAGED HELP WITH THE SECURITY FILES FOR THE ECONOMIC FILES.
brownbaby says to (12:07:18):
Damluji: Najaf bombings caused by poor coordination between the security services http://www.dinarspeculator.com/showthread.php?p=21203#post21203
Polarbear says to (12:07:18):
will have to fend for them selves
****** says to (12:07:49):
AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AN ENTITIY THAT CAN'T BE INFLUENCED
****** says to (12:08:11):
YOU FORGET YOU ARE SAYING INFLUENCING WHO? THE GOI RIGHT?
****** says to (12:08:34):
WHAT DOES THE GOI HAVE TO DO WITH THE CENRAL BANK
****** says to (12:08:38):
NOTHING
****** says to (12:08:42):
EXCEPT TO AUDIT
****** says to (12:08:47):
AND OVERSIGHT
****** says to (12:09:11):
THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO FORCE MONETARY POLICIES ON SHABIBI
****** says to (12:09:33):
THAT WAS TAKEN CARE OF WHEN THE CONSTITUTION WAS WRITTEN
****** says to (12:09:56):
I BELIEVE THE REFERENCE TO CBI IS IN ART 103 OR 107 OF THE IRAQI CONSTITUTION
****** says to (12:10:25):
AND CBI HAS IT'S OWN ARTICLES AND AUTONOMY GRANTED BY THE CPA
murph says to (12:10:43):
So ******, there can be no outside influence other than IMF to influence the RV, correct, not GOI, not US noone?
****** says to (12:10:49):
THIS WAS SO NOONE IN THE GOI COULD STEAL MONEY AS DID UNDER SADAAMS REIGN
****** says to (12:10:55):
I LET YOU FINISH
****** says to (12:10:56):
LET ME
****** says to (12:11:05):
THAT IS RUDE
murph says to (12:11:18):
sorry
*** (12:11:24):murph is muted by Admin for breaking rules!
****** says to (12:11:33):
SADAAM PULLED OFF THE LARGEST BANK HEIST THROUGH HIS SON
*** (12:11:34):murph has been unmuted by Admin.
****** says to (12:11:40):
ON JUST A HAND WRITTEN NOTE
****** says to (12:12:05):
THEY STOLE 920 MILLION FROM THE CENTRAL BANK THE DAY BEFORE THE U.S. INVADED THE 2ND TIME
****** says to (12:12:30):
AND THE IMF CANNOT NOT FORCE AN RV ON ANYONE.
****** says to (12:12:32):
UNLESS
****** says to (12:12:55):
AN AGREEMENT IS MADE AND SIGNED BY THE CENTRAL BANK AND THE MOF
****** says to (12:13:34):
WHICH AN AGREEMENT HAS BEEN FORGED AND SIGNED BETWEEN THE IMF/WB AND MOF AND SHABIBI
****** says to (12:13:52):
THE MOF AND SHABIBI BOTH HAD TO AGREE TO THE IMF/WB LOANS
****** says to (12:14:18):
AND THE MONETARY AND ECONOMIC POLICIES THAT THEY WANTED IN PLACE.
****** says to (12:14:31):
AS I HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER FOR MONTHS
****** says to (12:14:50):
THE IMF BEFORE DISBURSEMENT OF ANY FUNDS
****** says to (12:15:13):
THE RECEIVING COUNTRY HAS TO HAVE THE STIPULATIONS IN PLACE FOR 30 DAYS
****** says to (12:15:26):
UNLESS THE IMF AGREES TO EXTEND IT
****** says to (12:15:46):
NOW ALSO IN ORDER TO PAY BACK IMF LOAN FUND TRANSACTIONS AGAIN
****** says to (12:16:03):
THE BORROWING COUNTRY MUST PAY IT BACK WITH A TRADEABLE CURRENCY
****** says to (12:16:12):
NOW THEY DO NOT
****** says to (12:16:28):
AND THE OIL REVENUES ALL THOUGHT WERE COMING THIS YEAR ARE NOT COMING EITHER
****** says to (12:16:43):
THAT TALK WAS SQUASHED YESTERDAY
****** says to (12:17:13):
AND IT WAS POSTED THAT THEY WILL NOT BE READY TO REAP THE BENEFITS OF INCREASED OIL PRODUCTION FOR ABOUT 3 MORE YEARS
****** says to (12:17:41):
ALSO THE OIL REVENUES NOW ARE ONLY HALF OF THE BUDGET PROPOSED FOR 2010
****** says to (12:17:56):
AT BEST THE REVENUES WERE 40 BILLION USD
****** says to (12:18:12):
AND THE LOW EST FOR 2009 WAS 36.8 BILLION USD
****** says to (12:18:36):
NOW THE BUDGET IS OVER 80 BILLION USD OR CONVERTED OVER 80 TRILLION IQD
****** says to (12:20:35):
NOW ADD THE 5.98 BILLION USD OR CONVERTED 7 TRILLION IQD THAT THEY GOT FROM THE IMF/WB LOANS
****** says to (12:20:47):
TO 40 BILLION USD OIL REVENUES
****** says to (12:21:03):
AND YOU HAVE ABOUT A 45% BUDGET DEFICIT
****** says to (12:21:20):
NOW THE ONLY WAY TO COVER ALL THOSE PROJECTS
****** says to (12:21:32):
IS TO HAVE FIAT MONEY
****** says to (12:21:47):
WELL NOT ACTUALLY FIAT
****** says to (12:22:17):
BUT A TRADEABLE RECOGNIZED CURRENCY THAT THEY CAN USE AND HAVE THE IMF AND WB COVER ON A FLOAT
****** says to (12:22:51):
I LISTED ISSUES THAT COULD BE PROBLEMATIC FOR IRAQ AND THE RV
****** says to (12:22:59):
THIS MORNING IN CHAT
****** says to (12:23:05):
1) STABILITY
****** says to (12:23:19):
2) POSTPONEMENT OF THE ELECTIONS
****** says to (12:23:26):
3) NO BUDGET
****** says to (12:23:51):
4) CORRUPTION
****** says to (12:24:31):
NOW IRAQ IS NOT JOINING THE WTO THIS YEAR EITHER
****** says to (12:24:49):
THEY WILL STAY A OBSERVING MEMBER FOR 2010
****** says to (12:24:52):
WHY?
****** says to (12:25:10):
BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO PRODUCTS THAT THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY WANTS
****** says to (12:25:41):
THEY PRODUCE NOTHING TO EXPORT THAT MEETS THE WTO STANDARDS FOR EXPORTS
****** says to (12:26:24):
THIS WAS WHY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR WAS SO MUCH PUSHED BY THE IMF AND WORLD BANK WHILE THEY WERE UNDER THE SBA
****** says to (12:26:33):
BUT IRAQ REFUSED TO ADDRESS IT
****** says to (12:27:33):
THEY LOOKED AT THE OIL REVENUES AND THE MISINFORMATION GIVEN BY THE MIN. OF OIL AND THE ROSIE PICTURE PAINTED BY MALIKI
****** says to (12:28:08):
NOW IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY NO RV
****** says to (12:28:30):
IT WAS POINTED OUT BY SALEGH THE ADVISOR TO SHABIBI AND CENTRAL BANK ON SUNDAY
****** says to (12:28:44):
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT MEMORIES ARE THAT SHORT
****** says to (12:29:16):
HE EXPLAINED THAT POLITICAL AND CRISIS IN IRAQ HAMPERED THE MOVEMENT OF THE IQD
****** says to (12:29:25):
WE ALL KNOW WHAT THOSE WERE
****** says to (12:30:08):
CHINA, ELECTION LAW, BOMBINGS, CORRUPTION, POSTPONEMENT OF THE ELECTIONS TILL MARCH
****** says to (12:30:21):
THAT IS WHY NO RV YET
****** says to (12:30:36):
NOT BECAUSE ANYONE HAS AN INFLUENCE TO HOLD IT UP
****** says to (12:31:29):
NOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE TO ALL
SamAdam222 says to (12:31:42):
Yes.
alphonse43 says to (12:31:47):
yes
dj51 says to (12:31:47):
yes
stoeser30 says to (12:31:48):
yes
****** says to (12:31:48):
DID I EXPLAIN IT SO ALL CAN GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITUATION
stoeser30 says to (12:31:56):
yes
Please RV Today says to (12:32:01):
very much so. TY med!
jfraser says to (12:32:04):
very clear
curiousB says to (12:32:07):
Yes
alphonse43 says to (12:32:16):
crystal clear
kenstrip says to (12:32:17):
yes thank you
vfwwildbill says to (12:32:18):
yes
cuttingedge says to (12:32:27):
Yes
lonestarlady says to (12:32:29):
yes
gator4ever says to (12:32:29):
yes ****** do you think Mailiki and Shabs want the rv? It would seem obvious that it would benefit them big time??
PHmichael says to (12:32:31):
as usual a fantastic presentation , med
Please RV Today says to (12:32:35):
bottom line is still it can happen any thim, right med?
****** says to (12:32:40):
YES GATOR I DO
Please RV Today says to (12:32:42):
time*
****** says to (12:32:51):
YES PRV
Please RV Today says to (12:32:58):
gator4ever says to (12:33:01):
so if nothing else comes up?? we should be very close??
****** says to (12:33:04):
ANYTIME AND NOONE BUT SHABS WILL KNOW
cleaninglady says to (12:33:24):
yes
blue442 says to (12:33:28):
What is the latest date you think we could possibly see the RV?
gator4ever says to (12:33:28):
does Shabs want Mailiki in office?
****** says to (12:33:43):
GATOR BEFORE I USED TO THINK I COULD HOLD ONTO INTEL FOR DAYS AND BE TRUE
SamAdam222 says to (12:33:50):
Go Shabs. Push that button.
Please RV Today says to (12:33:53):
my wife calls me perv, not prv!
****** says to (12:33:55):
NOW I AM WORRIED IT IS OVER IN HRS
curiousB says to (12:34:00):
****** do you think if there are two rates a lower for the 25K notes it will be less than $100
curiousB says to (12:34:39):
$1.00
****** says to (12:34:39):
HE IF IT IS $100 PER 1 IQD
I WILL TAKE IT
LOL
laredo7mm says to (12:34:50):
lol
Please RV Today says to (12:34:53):
lol
alphonse43 says to (12:34:55):
curious, you mean $1.00?
PHmichael says to (12:34:56):
metoo
gator4ever says to (12:34:57):
no kidding
curiousB says to (12:34:59):
Me Too
****** says to (12:35:06):
DO I THINK IT WILL LESS THAN $1
NO I DO NOT
I think a lot of it is 'smoke and mirrors' to purposely throw the public off, what do you guys think?
dinarham says to (12:06:59):
Maybe one of their last ducks is the 1 year 1170 benchmark
Polarbear says to (12:07:06):
the US is going to pull out at some time so they
****** says to (12:07:11):
WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THE U.S. LEVERAGED HELP WITH THE SECURITY FILES FOR THE ECONOMIC FILES.
brownbaby says to (12:07:18):
Damluji: Najaf bombings caused by poor coordination between the security services http://www.dinarspeculator.com/showthread.php?p=21203#post21203
Polarbear says to (12:07:18):
will have to fend for them selves
****** says to (12:07:49):
AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AN ENTITIY THAT CAN'T BE INFLUENCED
****** says to (12:08:11):
YOU FORGET YOU ARE SAYING INFLUENCING WHO? THE GOI RIGHT?
****** says to (12:08:34):
WHAT DOES THE GOI HAVE TO DO WITH THE CENRAL BANK
****** says to (12:08:38):
NOTHING
****** says to (12:08:42):
EXCEPT TO AUDIT
****** says to (12:08:47):
AND OVERSIGHT
****** says to (12:09:11):
THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO FORCE MONETARY POLICIES ON SHABIBI
****** says to (12:09:33):
THAT WAS TAKEN CARE OF WHEN THE CONSTITUTION WAS WRITTEN
****** says to (12:09:56):
I BELIEVE THE REFERENCE TO CBI IS IN ART 103 OR 107 OF THE IRAQI CONSTITUTION
****** says to (12:10:25):
AND CBI HAS IT'S OWN ARTICLES AND AUTONOMY GRANTED BY THE CPA
murph says to (12:10:43):
So ******, there can be no outside influence other than IMF to influence the RV, correct, not GOI, not US noone?
****** says to (12:10:49):
THIS WAS SO NOONE IN THE GOI COULD STEAL MONEY AS DID UNDER SADAAMS REIGN
****** says to (12:10:55):
I LET YOU FINISH
****** says to (12:10:56):
LET ME
****** says to (12:11:05):
THAT IS RUDE
murph says to (12:11:18):
sorry
*** (12:11:24):murph is muted by Admin for breaking rules!
****** says to (12:11:33):
SADAAM PULLED OFF THE LARGEST BANK HEIST THROUGH HIS SON
*** (12:11:34):murph has been unmuted by Admin.
****** says to (12:11:40):
ON JUST A HAND WRITTEN NOTE
****** says to (12:12:05):
THEY STOLE 920 MILLION FROM THE CENTRAL BANK THE DAY BEFORE THE U.S. INVADED THE 2ND TIME
****** says to (12:12:30):
AND THE IMF CANNOT NOT FORCE AN RV ON ANYONE.
****** says to (12:12:32):
UNLESS
****** says to (12:12:55):
AN AGREEMENT IS MADE AND SIGNED BY THE CENTRAL BANK AND THE MOF
****** says to (12:13:34):
WHICH AN AGREEMENT HAS BEEN FORGED AND SIGNED BETWEEN THE IMF/WB AND MOF AND SHABIBI
****** says to (12:13:52):
THE MOF AND SHABIBI BOTH HAD TO AGREE TO THE IMF/WB LOANS
****** says to (12:14:18):
AND THE MONETARY AND ECONOMIC POLICIES THAT THEY WANTED IN PLACE.
****** says to (12:14:31):
AS I HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER FOR MONTHS
****** says to (12:14:50):
THE IMF BEFORE DISBURSEMENT OF ANY FUNDS
****** says to (12:15:13):
THE RECEIVING COUNTRY HAS TO HAVE THE STIPULATIONS IN PLACE FOR 30 DAYS
****** says to (12:15:26):
UNLESS THE IMF AGREES TO EXTEND IT
****** says to (12:15:46):
NOW ALSO IN ORDER TO PAY BACK IMF LOAN FUND TRANSACTIONS AGAIN
****** says to (12:16:03):
THE BORROWING COUNTRY MUST PAY IT BACK WITH A TRADEABLE CURRENCY
****** says to (12:16:12):
NOW THEY DO NOT
****** says to (12:16:28):
AND THE OIL REVENUES ALL THOUGHT WERE COMING THIS YEAR ARE NOT COMING EITHER
****** says to (12:16:43):
THAT TALK WAS SQUASHED YESTERDAY
****** says to (12:17:13):
AND IT WAS POSTED THAT THEY WILL NOT BE READY TO REAP THE BENEFITS OF INCREASED OIL PRODUCTION FOR ABOUT 3 MORE YEARS
****** says to (12:17:41):
ALSO THE OIL REVENUES NOW ARE ONLY HALF OF THE BUDGET PROPOSED FOR 2010
****** says to (12:17:56):
AT BEST THE REVENUES WERE 40 BILLION USD
****** says to (12:18:12):
AND THE LOW EST FOR 2009 WAS 36.8 BILLION USD
****** says to (12:18:36):
NOW THE BUDGET IS OVER 80 BILLION USD OR CONVERTED OVER 80 TRILLION IQD
****** says to (12:20:35):
NOW ADD THE 5.98 BILLION USD OR CONVERTED 7 TRILLION IQD THAT THEY GOT FROM THE IMF/WB LOANS
****** says to (12:20:47):
TO 40 BILLION USD OIL REVENUES
****** says to (12:21:03):
AND YOU HAVE ABOUT A 45% BUDGET DEFICIT
****** says to (12:21:20):
NOW THE ONLY WAY TO COVER ALL THOSE PROJECTS
****** says to (12:21:32):
IS TO HAVE FIAT MONEY
****** says to (12:21:47):
WELL NOT ACTUALLY FIAT
****** says to (12:22:17):
BUT A TRADEABLE RECOGNIZED CURRENCY THAT THEY CAN USE AND HAVE THE IMF AND WB COVER ON A FLOAT
****** says to (12:22:51):
I LISTED ISSUES THAT COULD BE PROBLEMATIC FOR IRAQ AND THE RV
****** says to (12:22:59):
THIS MORNING IN CHAT
****** says to (12:23:05):
1) STABILITY
****** says to (12:23:19):
2) POSTPONEMENT OF THE ELECTIONS
****** says to (12:23:26):
3) NO BUDGET
****** says to (12:23:51):
4) CORRUPTION
****** says to (12:24:31):
NOW IRAQ IS NOT JOINING THE WTO THIS YEAR EITHER
****** says to (12:24:49):
THEY WILL STAY A OBSERVING MEMBER FOR 2010
****** says to (12:24:52):
WHY?
****** says to (12:25:10):
BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO PRODUCTS THAT THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY WANTS
****** says to (12:25:41):
THEY PRODUCE NOTHING TO EXPORT THAT MEETS THE WTO STANDARDS FOR EXPORTS
****** says to (12:26:24):
THIS WAS WHY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR WAS SO MUCH PUSHED BY THE IMF AND WORLD BANK WHILE THEY WERE UNDER THE SBA
****** says to (12:26:33):
BUT IRAQ REFUSED TO ADDRESS IT
****** says to (12:27:33):
THEY LOOKED AT THE OIL REVENUES AND THE MISINFORMATION GIVEN BY THE MIN. OF OIL AND THE ROSIE PICTURE PAINTED BY MALIKI
****** says to (12:28:08):
NOW IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY NO RV
****** says to (12:28:30):
IT WAS POINTED OUT BY SALEGH THE ADVISOR TO SHABIBI AND CENTRAL BANK ON SUNDAY
****** says to (12:28:44):
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT MEMORIES ARE THAT SHORT
****** says to (12:29:16):
HE EXPLAINED THAT POLITICAL AND CRISIS IN IRAQ HAMPERED THE MOVEMENT OF THE IQD
****** says to (12:29:25):
WE ALL KNOW WHAT THOSE WERE
****** says to (12:30:08):
CHINA, ELECTION LAW, BOMBINGS, CORRUPTION, POSTPONEMENT OF THE ELECTIONS TILL MARCH
****** says to (12:30:21):
THAT IS WHY NO RV YET
****** says to (12:30:36):
NOT BECAUSE ANYONE HAS AN INFLUENCE TO HOLD IT UP
****** says to (12:31:29):
NOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE TO ALL
SamAdam222 says to (12:31:42):
Yes.
alphonse43 says to (12:31:47):
yes
dj51 says to (12:31:47):
yes
stoeser30 says to (12:31:48):
yes
****** says to (12:31:48):
DID I EXPLAIN IT SO ALL CAN GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITUATION
stoeser30 says to (12:31:56):
yes
Please RV Today says to (12:32:01):
very much so. TY med!
jfraser says to (12:32:04):
very clear
curiousB says to (12:32:07):
Yes
alphonse43 says to (12:32:16):
crystal clear
kenstrip says to (12:32:17):
yes thank you
vfwwildbill says to (12:32:18):
yes
cuttingedge says to (12:32:27):
Yes
lonestarlady says to (12:32:29):
yes
gator4ever says to (12:32:29):
yes ****** do you think Mailiki and Shabs want the rv? It would seem obvious that it would benefit them big time??
PHmichael says to (12:32:31):
as usual a fantastic presentation , med
Please RV Today says to (12:32:35):
bottom line is still it can happen any thim, right med?
****** says to (12:32:40):
YES GATOR I DO
Please RV Today says to (12:32:42):
time*
****** says to (12:32:51):
YES PRV
Please RV Today says to (12:32:58):
gator4ever says to (12:33:01):
so if nothing else comes up?? we should be very close??
****** says to (12:33:04):
ANYTIME AND NOONE BUT SHABS WILL KNOW
cleaninglady says to (12:33:24):
yes
blue442 says to (12:33:28):
What is the latest date you think we could possibly see the RV?
gator4ever says to (12:33:28):
does Shabs want Mailiki in office?
****** says to (12:33:43):
GATOR BEFORE I USED TO THINK I COULD HOLD ONTO INTEL FOR DAYS AND BE TRUE
SamAdam222 says to (12:33:50):
Go Shabs. Push that button.
Please RV Today says to (12:33:53):
my wife calls me perv, not prv!
****** says to (12:33:55):
NOW I AM WORRIED IT IS OVER IN HRS
curiousB says to (12:34:00):
****** do you think if there are two rates a lower for the 25K notes it will be less than $100
curiousB says to (12:34:39):
$1.00
****** says to (12:34:39):
HE IF IT IS $100 PER 1 IQD
I WILL TAKE IT
LOL
laredo7mm says to (12:34:50):
lol
Please RV Today says to (12:34:53):
lol
alphonse43 says to (12:34:55):
curious, you mean $1.00?
PHmichael says to (12:34:56):
metoo
gator4ever says to (12:34:57):
no kidding
curiousB says to (12:34:59):
Me Too
****** says to (12:35:06):
DO I THINK IT WILL LESS THAN $1
NO I DO NOT
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You say that the IMF has to be paid back in a trade able currency. And that IRAQ does not have a trade able currency. Correct me if I am wrong, I believe Iraq sells oil and they get paid in USD. That 90% of all the Gov't income is from the sale of oil. In fact, just this week the CBI sold close to $700 million dollars USD. I think Iraq will pay back the IMF loan with USD. I am sure the IMF will not have a problem accepting the USD. Last time I look the USD is trade able and convertible.
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